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Re: What's in a name anyway? - your views please?

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:33 pm

KitMcDaydream wrote:Our 'difficulties in the basic ability to relate' though would have come from the autism and developmental delays. which may also account for why our understanding of having 'the others' came so late in life and us being unable to verbalise it.


It's hard to know--difficulties in relating can come from early neglect. Babies learn how to interact from their caregivers--reciprocal gazing, mirror neurons, etc. The effects of early emotional neglect can look just like autism, and it's difficult to tell them apart. And of course, both can be present, which complicates things further.

I don't have autism, but I'm sure it looked like it at times when I was a child, due to emotional neglect. Neither of those determine when a person becomes aware of alters, though. Our body was mid-50s when we figured that out, even though we knew all about dissociative disorders since our 20s.
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Re: What's in a name anyway? - your views please?

Postby KitMcDaydream » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:53 pm

TheGangsAllHere wrote:
KitMcDaydream wrote:Our 'difficulties in the basic ability to relate' though would have come from the autism and developmental delays. which may also account for why our understanding of having 'the others' came so late in life and us being unable to verbalise it.


It's hard to know--difficulties in relating can come from early neglect. Babies learn how to interact from their caregivers--reciprocal gazing, mirror neurons, etc. The effects of early emotional neglect can look just like autism, and it's difficult to tell them apart. And of course, both can be present, which complicates things further.

I don't have autism, but I'm sure it looked like it at times when I was a child, due to emotional neglect. Neither of those determine when a person becomes aware of alters, though. Our body was mid-50s when we figured that out, even though we knew all about dissociative disorders since our 20s.


I do know though that I was NOT neglected by my parents. I was their first and there were complications during birth and after. plus the fact the my thyroid problem was not found until I was nearly two.

All literature I have found about congenital hypothyroidism has said it can cause autism and severe learning disabilities if left untreated even a short time. I had 23 months between having being getting thyroxine from my mothers body and them finding mine wasn't working by which time I couldn't sit up unsupported, walk or speak. All I know is I was told I could go from totally passive & silent to 'screaming banshee' within seconds!

I know I had some seizures between age 4 and 7 and had intensive physio and speech therapy at the hospital special school. I had to have blood tests every week at that age so we were constantly to and fro from the hospital My mother was very devoted to me 'catching up' to other kids, so for me at least emotional neglect (from parents) was not the issue.

I just think back then they didn't know it could cause autism and remain permanent and probably had no idea of the importance of developing identity. The Dr's were focused entirely on the fact that once I could walk and speak they'd done their bit!

Anyway back to the here and now I wonder if we are experiencing the 'midlife crisis' where people look back on their life and reflect. With several different alters having memories of different parts of 'the life' and no single alter having memories for the 'entire life' I'm not sure how we can move past this 'mid-life crisis' stage?

I think we many need to manually collate all the memories from the different alters to be able to see 'the life' as an whole.
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Re: What's in a name anyway? - your views please?

Postby KitMcDaydream » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:55 am

Thanks to everyone who answered. We need to decide what we want next and how it would be achieved.

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