Accessing inside knowledge & stuff from outside

Hi people,

So I'm new to being 'out here' and stuff, and kinda trying to understand and stuff, about how all this works.

There's a bunch of stuff I have where I'm from, that I don't have out here. Like knowledge, skills, information, that kinda thing? Is there any way I can like, get access to that stuff when I'm here?

Like I don't understand why some stuff transfers over and other stuff doesn't. Like it feels like liabilities come thru but benefits don't?

Like I have a kinda 'learning disability' thing where I'm from and thats still there when I'm here. So how come the bad stuff follows me here but the good stuff doesn't?

Thank you.

(i'm not gonna share my name yet cos it still makes viola twitchy but she's slowly getting used to me so maybe later.)

Hi, New Amythyst Person.

We know it can be hard figuring things out alone. We also know that your system tends to take turns having one person front when others are tired or stressed.

It's great that you're considering Viola's feelings. We hope that she knows this and will get used to having you around. In the long run, communicating is best for everyone.

Good luck,

MDs

Hi new Amythyst person!

That sounds so complicated and difficult. I hope that you can get some answers from inside about it. I don't think we have the same kind of thing in our system.

Wishing you the best!

Hey MDs & Gang,

I'll thank you both on her behalf. I'm sure she'll be back again at some point...

What she's trying to do or whatever, I think it's impossible? She has skills & knowledge inside that don't transfer out here.

Like eg. she's been taking baking classes 'inside' & knows how to bake cakes & stuff from scratch, & knows how to do fancy decorating & stuff. But afaik noone 'outside' has ever learned that stuff, so its impossible for her to bring that knowledge out front with her?

That's what she's trying to do.

Viola

ps. I'm trying to be more accepting or whatever so i'll say it. her name is Cindy. Her age is 'complicated' lol but in DID terms she's kinda like a slider? 12-16-22. She's seen our T twice & our T sees her as a kid. she started fronting a week ago afaik. maybe earlier than that.

Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining. Good for you for doing that even though it may have been a challenging step for you.

Happy to talk to Cindy whenever she comes back.

MDs

I was sort of thinking the same thing as Cindy. Internally I'm good at some stuff. Externally I can do what I can do internally as long as they do it out here. So I can drive and use a computer and a phone. I don't feel I can do it to the level I can internally but I can do it.

I didn't know where anything was at work today but I don't think anyone noticed. Occasionally I got some internal tips and help. Like I know they make mistakes, the people I work with so I made up some possible mistake and checked it - they hadn't made a mistake with it but I didn't go look for actual mistakes, too boring.

I'll put this on my own thread.

Anyway I was wondering the same thing as Cindy. Would my internal skills transfer out here. My internal skills aren't actually that useful so it probably doesn't matter but I was wondering.

Lilly

Hello Cindy (and Viola),

Internal skills are something complicated. I see them as being tendencies more than skills. Meaning that, even though someone internally might be very good at cooking, on the outside we still don't know what ingredients to use, and we still don't know recipes by memory. That's simply how it works I think.

So, about baking in your case, you may be very good at it, but you have to make that knowledge conscious and practical first. It has to go into your procedural memory and all that stuff. It's probably not completely gone, it just needs activation and practice!

On the other hand, learning disabilities and that kind of stuff is not learned, it's just a matter of brain wiring. So it's easy to understand why that stuff comes with you, and other stuff doesn't.

Good luck with everything and don't give up on what you would like to do

Hello again people,

Thanks for replying & being so nice!

I'm still trying to figure this stuff out & all. I got a notebook so I can take notes & stuff.

I saw viola says it's maybe impossible what I want. :( I was kinda rooting around in the other memories in here and saw stuff they've read thats the same. Like there was an example saying if someone was a doctor 'inside' but the 'outside body' never went to med school then they werent really a doctor. :(

So if the body here never learned baking then I don't 'really' know how to do it? But I do where I'm from, that's the bit thats frustrating. The baking stuff is just an example anyways, i'm sure if i'm stuck here a lot i could relearn it or something. There's other more important skills, other stuff I know when I'm there, that I don't have here. Thats whats more frustrating, that stuff will be a lot harder to get back if I can't remember it. :(

And like, with the learning disability thing, I kinda get that if it was a physical thing then it'd make sense but I don't know if it is? And anyways none of the others have it, just me. Except viola said when i am nearby it affects her. but normally she's fine.

I'm gonna keep trying to figure this stuff out. I don't know if I'll end up sticking around here or not, but if I hafta, then I wanna be able to do all the stuff I can do where I'm from.

Cindy

I have a more upbeat experience of this. Twins not fully shut down so some of this may range on the fantastical.

Patrick knew about car engines. Don't know how. They mentioned cars I remember in physics at school twice and I liked reading a car magazine occasionally and I sat in a garage where cars were being fixed quite alot. But didn't "learn it" or do any of it.

Then I got a chance to do work experience in a garage. I was working part time at the time anyway. I picked it up relatively quickly. They said go to college, I did in my 30's. I was one of the students other students would ask for help and the tutors would ask me to help others. I aced every exam except gear boxes, Pat said he was never a gear box person.

Patrick has past lives. That's how they view it. The twins. He was many things in past lives. Chronological order is difficult. But he was: a pirate, a highwayman, a footballer, a mechanic, a painter and decorator, - some other stuff but they blocking it now, they said that's enough or it goes back in time to irrelevant stuff.

So if we take "past life" to mean internal life then he did take the internal external.

Also before anything he could hear misfires, and say "it could be the..." And sometimes I didn't even know what I was saying.

Also I remember a conversation in my car with a woman I worked with who Pat says he knew in a past life. Their convo went like this: her "look at that" me "yeah it could be the rings" her "it could be the pistons" me "yeah, he's ###$" She has never studied mechanics but apparently the conversation made sense technically.

In someone's house, a similar thing, they were cleaning. (Pat and the same woman) She said "waters slow out this tap" me "yeah it's the pressure" her "they got the wrong pump" me "yeah or its because of the two taps running" her "ummm" me "they probably fitted the wrong pump to run two taps like that" her "should we tell em" me "no, we're being paid to clean not fix their plumbing problem, it's always like that just ignore it" The guy was downstairs, the next week we got there and he said "I got a plumber in, the last plumber fitted the wrong pump so the water pressure is good now" It was embarrassing because he must of heard us and also how did he not realise his plumbing was bad, he's a man.

So sometimes with things like this I occasionally think "was there past lives?" Because of how Pat can be with some people, not many but occasionally it is like he connects differently. Even when we saw the woman who knew about cars and plumbing other day and cried because she's in a wheelchair now she said "man up" - what woman says that to another woman. Pat has a certain sadness in him that I see in her too. I dunno it's odd.

Anyway inside can come outside. Like nobody had fired a gun but some were better at it than others. Some can sing and some can't. It's odd and it makes it feel like "souls" not fragments of one person, "souls with past lives" But I don't like to go down that train of thought too much because it's not psychologically sound or probably helpful.

Lilly yesterday changed completely. At first she was like a teenager and then the twins said "you're Florence Nightingale rembember" and she suddenly went very older and very sensible and very knowledgeable on basic medical stuff.

But that could be the twins using those things. Like Pat said at some point the twins like parts to "be" stuff and he didn't want to be William Teach so he was Len Davies instead that day - I didn't even know who Len Davies was but he's a footballer. I know who William Teach is because someone was obsessed with female pirates for ages and you have to read alot of pirate stuff before you find stuff about the women that were pirates but I didn't connect it till Pat explained what I'd heard waking up. So they could use the idea of past life to trigger different shades of an alters character. I don't know if that's possible, I dunno.

Anyway inside knowledge can come outside sometimes. But it's easier if you put time and effort into it.

Personally I tried learning Python code briefly because the twins said Beth can code and hack. I thought that's useful in these times, learning code sounds like a good idea. But it was so boring. I dunno if Beth would actually outwardly learn it. It looked really simple but very irksome, not something I would want to spend time doing so I did it for about an hour and didn't do it again. I don't think anyone really wanted me or themselves to actually do that. It's one of those things that sounds interesting but is really dull to me.

So bake stuff, get recipes and bake stuff. That's how to be a good baker

Oh sorry Rose's tips: always cream the butter and the sugar first. Then very slowly add the egg a bit at a time so it doesn't curdle. Always sift the flour. Fold this in do not beat it. The folding gets the air into the cake. If you don't do it in this order in this way your cake isn't so good. The only thing that you don't need to worry about this with is Brownies. But when making Brownies use vegetable oil recipe - a Brownie is not a cake.

I didn't know I could bake incredibly well till Rose did it. Before Rose started doing it I made flat cakes. So again it's possible for internal skills to come out.

I think with Lilly she has very converse past lives or internal lives. One a nurse, one a serial killer, one where she was taken in by Rose and Patrick and is sort of normal - lazy I'd say but basically normal. Different shades of a character of a person, like all people. Lilly to Paul is very sensitive and vulnerable. To herself she's tough. To me she just seems sort of normal but a bit lazy, she could sit around and live a life of shopping and coffees and be content. Doesn't seem particularly sensitive or tough.

The more I know about parts the more complicated it gets, they aren't 2D.

Hey the Amythyst gang, we just wanted to say hello and we hope you are all doing ok

Wishing you all the very best, hope you are coping ok with the 'outer world' situation at the minute and hope things are going ok for you all.

Thinking of you all and wishing you the very best!

Lucy