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Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby Rive » Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:00 pm

My thoughts are interrupted by other thoughts. Like for instance I may be thinking that person that is cleaning my room is loud. I'm trying to sleep. Then I yike (the childlike thoughts say yike instead of like) So a thought is interrupted by another thought. So how can that be alters? Not intrusive thoughts? I don't have a thought and then a thought at the same over top of someone else talking? That would seem more like a alter.
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:04 am

There is really NO “have to” about how alters behave or are perceived. Just like with people—two people can talk over each other, or interrupt each other, or wait until the other person stops talking. They’re just people, like you.
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby Zor » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:01 pm

Rive wrote:So a thought is interrupted by another thought. So how can that be alters? Not intrusive thoughts? I don't have a thought and then a thought at the same over top of someone else talking? That would seem more like a alter.


You said "So a thought is interrupted by another thought." then asked "So how can that be alters? Not intrusive thoughts? "
Then you literally answered your own questions saying: "I don't have a thought and then a thought at the same over top of someone else talking? That would seem more like a alter." (Emphasis added)

It's NOT your thought. It "would seem" like it's an alter, b/c that's exactly what it is. That's what happens when several people "talk" (in this case internally, which you're expressing like thoughts) at the same time. THIS is what makes it so confusing and confounding at times.
These aren't "intrusive thoughts", it's like Gang said it's people talking over one another (You could call it "intrusive" behavior, maybe). Ultimately, it's a lack of coordination, cooperation, and communication.

Honestly, you're going to struggle with this, likely a lot, until you begin to reach out and TRY- which means you can't keep diminishing what they are and how they function and questioning the validity of their very existence. No one likes to be invalidated or questioned about their basic existence or right to exist - alters are rarely different (sometimes far MORE sensitive to that) than other external people you'll meet in that regard.
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby Sarandipity » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:34 pm

Hi Rive, just wanted to let you know about this that happened last night and are quite pleased we remembered because we didn't get a chance to say it last night.

Last night was watching a kids film. Mandy and the overlap were fighting over who could watch it. They agreed everyone of the child parts who wanted to could watch it in like a back veiwing room, some fell asleep before the end, they were hyper about being able to watch a film.

I hate popcorn, never liked it, it's dry and yucky. But some parts were wanting popcorn. If I had popcorn, which I didn't, then I would of eaten some. This wanting of popcorn came out in a thought / internal voice saying "popcorn" and a visual flash of them eating popcorn.

Just wanted to tell you :)
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby Rive » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:22 pm

Thanks guys. I mean I don't have one or more thoughts from alters while I am having a thought. Like a bunch of people talking. I will be having regular thoughts about something then that thought is interrupted and another thought that doesn't seem like mine like, "I yike preschool." It never sounds like several thoughts at one time from alters. Even when it seems like two are arguing I am not having my own thoughts in my head. I'm having theirs.
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:57 pm

What you're describing is very common.
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby Rive » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:10 pm

It's common not to have a symphony of thoughts at the same time? Just thoughts interrupted by other Thoughts? I thought people with DID heard several thoughts at one time?
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby TheGangsAllHere » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:26 pm

Correct. You can have thoughts interrupted by other thoughts. Please don't start any sentence with "I thought people with DID..." blah blah blah always have x or never have y. I don't know why you have all these misconceptions about DID. It is different for every system.

Maybe some people hear several thoughts at one time. I'm not sure how you would pay attention to them and even know what they were if they were happening simultaneously. I definitely have more than one feeling at a time, and then I can think about each of them and get a sense of the thought that go with each one.

I was about to walk to a relative's house a couple days after Thanksgiving, and I looked out the window and saw that it had started to snow. I simultaneously felt a bubbly, happy "yay!" feeling from a little, or several littles, and an "Oh $#%^!" feeling from an older part who didn't want to walk a mile up a hill in the snow without a waterproof jacket. I felt the feelings and then paid attention to the reasons for them.
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby Zor » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:18 pm

Rive wrote:It's common not to have a symphony of thoughts at the same time? Just thoughts interrupted by other Thoughts? I thought people with DID heard several thoughts at one time?


Not just common, but consistent. It IS something that happens from differing perspectives, preferences, and opinions of so many within.

And as Gang said, there's little concrete that "most" people with DID have, much less all. Blanket statements in most things are a bad idea, even more so with DID.
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Re: Do they have to talk over you're thoughts

Postby andiKirkwood » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:11 pm

Rive wrote:My thoughts are interrupted by other thoughts. Like for instance I may be thinking that person that is cleaning my room is loud. I'm trying to sleep. Then I yike (the childlike thoughts say yike instead of like) So a thought is interrupted by another thought. So how can that be alters? Not intrusive thoughts? I don't have a thought and then a thought at the same over top of someone else talking? That would seem more like a alter.


rive you answer own question. see read what yous wrote. you called um thoughts that mean to you it be thoughts.

see read yous wrote child like thought. to you they be child thought.

did aint same for all. it be how it is be for you. maybe not try so hard to be getting info stuff from others. maybe looks to how things be for you.

you calls them thoughts thats what they be. you calls um child thoughts thats what they be. wes cant tells you different. wes cant tells you if alter or thoughts, we aint you. and you say they be thoughts, they be thoughts. it how it be for you.
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