Outer controlling inner 'alter' **TRIGGER WARNING**

Do healthy people not have inner worlds then? I thought everyone could have or did have an inner world not just DID people. I'm sure healthy people having dreams or day dreaming is a kind of inner world? Although I day dream and it's not an inner world, it's a day dream. Day dreams don't become part of the inner world like if I day dreamer winning the lottery it wouldn't happen internally, there isn't a lottery in the inner world. I just thought everyone had an inner world. I thought singular people just had themselves in their inner world with whatever they wanted, kind of like how the twins live alone in a massive intricate theme park type place. What do they have then? Where do they go when they had enough of outside life? They must have an inner world. Maybe I should make this as a separate post.

No-one

Sarandipity wrote:Do healthy people not have inner worlds then? I thought everyone could have or did have an inner world not just DID people. I'm sure healthy people having dreams or day dreaming is a kind of inner world? Although I day dream and it's not an inner world, it's a day dream. Day dreams don't become part of the inner world like if I day dreamer winning the lottery it wouldn't happen internally, there isn't a lottery in the inner world. I just thought everyone had an inner world. I thought singular people just had themselves in their inner world with whatever they wanted, kind of like how the twins live alone in a massive intricate theme park type place. What do they have then? Where do they go when they had enough of outside life? They must have an inner world. Maybe I should make this as a separate post.

No-one

There are two different things being mentioned here... First is inner worlds. Can non-dissociative people have them? Not generally, from what I've read. Day dreaming is not much different than any other dream (like you have when asleep), only it's a temporary "wandering" of the mind. Generally these are never consistent, much less persistent. Daydreams are not "dissociation" to a degree where it's "disorder" or disruptive... it's a standard function of the brain. Dissociation-caused inner worlds are far more than this, a deeper and more consistent and/or persistent presence of a single setting/world. This can vary and take different forms or shapes, per alter, or even for any given one... but they exist apart from common daydreaming.

Pixie is noting that THEY TOO thought everyone had that kind of "inner world" like presence, and others (like she and Kitten- the two who sort of knew about them/us before I was made aware of it). But that was a bad assumption, Pixie says, on their part.

"Where do they go when they had enough of outside life?" I don't think they CAN go anywhere- that's dissociation, dissociating FROM outside life. Non-dissociative people DON'T do that. Maybe that's why we see relaxation techniques, mindfulness, "retreats", and spa days sort of things being so popular... It's a way to decompress and unwind from the stress of the world, the outside world- a world they never "escape" from the way we dissociating people can and do.

Sarandipity wrote:Do healthy people not have inner worlds then?
No-one

No, we don't. We... It gets foggy? We have to stay in our bodies, looking out of our eyes. We can't go anywhere. We have to deal with it. We may become anxious, or depressed, or some other mental/emotional consequence will happen.
It kinda sucks.



I'm so sorry. I honestly had no clue.
We were doing roleplays before, messages sent back and forth online taking place in settings that we described. Not in the inner world.
Then one of us suggested doing an inner world rp. It might have been him, might have been me. I don't remember, and can't find it in the archived messages.
It was during a time when he was out of town, for like a month. We missed each other...
Only recently (within the past month) have I learnt that it was 'real' inside.
I asked because I didn't know how it worked, how it could work.
I asked because I didn't know if there could be repercussions.
I've always been very sensitive about his multiplicity, and I did lots of research so that I knew what was happening and what that meant for us, and for him.
I didn't know that an introject was forming.
I don't know where she appears when I come online/ start roleplaying.
When I leave, if I don't announce that, she stays inside, frozen. If I do, she'll just disappear.
He doesn't have a therapist right now, but he's working on getting one.
I will stop immediately.
I... It made them happy. When we can't spend much time together in the outer world, I can still be there for them (the system) in the inner world. I can talk to alters who don't come out often, if at all. I was trying to help them. I know now that it was not helpful. I was not trying to be their therapist. I would help with watching the littles, or with resolving/mediating conflicts.
I didn't know.
I'm sorry.
It's not a game. It's not fun. I've known that from when we first started dating. I'm sorry.
I will not be breaking up with him. It was an honest mistake. I get why y'all are so distressed, but a little benefit of the doubt is appreciated. If I had had malicious intent, I would not have asked about it here. I would have already known what was happening, if it was purposeful.
I'm sorry.

Parafoxical wrote:

Sarandipity wrote:Do healthy people not have inner worlds then?
No-one

No, we don't. We... It gets foggy? We have to stay in our bodies, looking out of our eyes. We can't go anywhere. We have to deal with it. We may become anxious, or depressed, or some other mental/emotional consequence will happen.
It kinda sucks.

Hi, thanks for that. That is a really helpful description. I was looking at a guy in a support group I go to and he looked angry, sad, frightened, frustrated all in one go and I thought omg that's how I'd be without DID. Except if I went through my childhood only able to be like that I think I'd be dead because there was far too much that I would of felt like that. I don't mean I would of killed myself I mean feeling all those things every time I was abused and then the after effects of it I think my central nervous system would of shut down and I would of physically died. So how you're describing it is how the guy looked on Thursday. I often wonder what it's like to keep everything in one consciousness, how people do it and what happens if they get in a situation and they don't have other parts who take over. To me it's a really strange idea, holding everything in one place. How do they hide things from themselves, I guess they don't, what do they do when they can't cope. It's really fascinating to me in a way. I can't ask them so thanks for sharing that.

I didn't think you were being malicious, I thought a kind of accident because you wouldn't know what you was doing and it would seem ok because he's ok with it.

Thanks,

No-one

Thanks, No-one. (Would it be rude to make an Odysseus joke here?)
Also, the version of me never did/could not front. And when I talked to BF about it, he said that he (et al) had been completely okay with it, on his end. That doesn't change the new knowledge, though.
I can text them, inner world. Like, I send a message, and when it's seen, it gets sent to them inside? At least, I believe that's how it works. And there's now a magic dumbwaiter via which I can send things like chocolate and letters. (I'll say, "The dumbwaiter dings and the doors open. Inside is a small glass dish filled with Hershey's kisses.")

Parafoxical wrote:Thanks, No-one. (Would it be rude to make an Odysseus joke here?)
Also, the version of me never did/could not front. And when I talked to BF about it, he said that he (et al) had been completely okay with it, on his end. That doesn't change the new knowledge, though.
I can text them, inner world. Like, I send a message, and when it's seen, it gets sent to them inside? At least, I believe that's how it works. And there's now a magic dumbwaiter via which I can send things like chocolate and letters. (I'll say, "The dumbwaiter dings and the doors open. Inside is a small glass dish filled with Hershey's kisses.")

Sounds alot safer, the message sending and a dumb waiter. It's nice he lets you in. I find it really difficult to let anyone know about inner world stuff. I don't mind saying it here because it's typing and it's different to real life but to try to let an outside person know about it feels really intrusive. Even the psychiatrist, started to tell him about an internal conversation and then Paul came forward and said "that's private" and couldn't tell him it even though it wasn't really embarrassing or personal to us even, we were just chatting about something external but to Paul it was a private conversation. So I think it's nice that he lets you in like this. Being mindful of it in a safety way is important. I don't know if it'd still cause an adverse reaction or not but it sounds much safer what you're doing now. No-one