Can't quite place the exact name for this

Michael - Original - 17

I don't even know if there is. If it's just being co-conscious or switching or what. I didn't really black out but I was pulled back quite a bit.

Basically, what happened was I got very overwhelmed much like Lucy did, where denial got too heavy and I kind of panicked and freaked out a bit. It's hard to remember everything but I was pulled back and Harley took over. Thing is, I could still like see and stuff. I wasn't fully in the inner world or anything. I mean I was there but Harley was in control and it was like my thoughts were becoming and merging with hers.

Is this like even a thing? I feel like it's being co-conscious but I'm a bit paranoid. Is there a better name for it? I was hoping to make it easier to explain to my T when I see her soon, or just in general. It's been so quiet and lonely I'm a bit too stuck in my own worries.

Thanks a bunch guys <3

I think this is passive influence but I could be wrong.

Suuuuper hesitantly, the only thing that I can think of is integration. Of course, both parts have to be consciously willing to integrate in order for that to happen. Actually, I think only one has to be. Here's a good video talking about an unexpected integration.
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I hope that this is helpful, and wish you best of luck with whatever's going on.
-Leana, non-DID, female

It could be blurring or blending. It's like coconsious but 'closer'. Like you end up kind of overlapping with another, and its hard to tell where one starts and the other ends.

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Parafoxical wrote:Suuuuper hesitantly, the only thing that I can think of is integration. Of course, both parts have to be consciously willing to integrate in order for that to happen. Actually, I think only one has to be. Here's a good video talking about an unexpected integration.
[url][/http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+entropy+system+mistletoe+integrating&view=detail&mid=9D4BBC944D050F5D5F8B9D4BBC944D050F5D5F8B&FORM=VIREurl]
I hope that this is helpful, and wish you best of luck with whatever's going on.
-Leana, non-DID, female

This was really interesting! I love the video, I watched it. Definitely subscribing to them. I don't think it was this, though. Thank you for telling me about this! I'll be seeing more of these videos definitely. <3

Rive wrote:I think this is passive influence but I could be wrong.

I looked up about passive influence, ended up reading a lot more! It was super informative. I don't think it's quite it, I think it's probably blurring/co-conscious thing.

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Amythyst wrote:It could be blurring or blending. It's like coconsious but 'closer'. Like you end up kind of overlapping with another, and its hard to tell where one starts and the other ends.

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I think this fits it best honestly. It was some kind of co-conscious/blurring thing going on. I guess what matters is that I'm better now and I'm pretty sure everyone else is okay, too.

In my opinion it is something like co-consciousness or blurring/blending. We use it a lot: somebody controls the body, but others observe while chatting and stay here ready to step in shall it be needed.

It is very practical while chatting on the Internet, so that anybody can easily say something if they want to, instead of having a full, exhausting, switch.

(Dunno who I/we are right now, it's the morning confusion)

That is why fronting is called fronting. When someone fronts, they're the one in front of the mind, while other(s) in there are in the back, and that is the way it literally feels like in your mind. And if you were fronting when someone else comes to front, that is exactly like it's suppose to feel, to be pushed or pulled back for someone else to come in front where you just were.

Co-consciousness means state where both or all parts involved in it, can hear each other and or feel or show or share their feelings with each other. Because that was the case with you two then, you were co-con, while the other one was fronting, not you.

I've been like that with Sami once. I was writing in here, forum, my own journal thread when Sami came in suddenly. I remember turning my head a bit and then he was THERE, pushed himself in front of me, our body position changing into his kind with that head movement. I was still typing when that happened, and could still do anything I wanted, but it started to feel just really stupid to do anything from the back, when there's someone else in front of you. I remember looking my hands, still typing what I was thinking and remember thinking wow, I didn't know there can be so different way to type, because his way to move our hands was clearly so masculine. And I was like.. I didn't know there are masculine and feminine ways to type. But clearly there are. I knew he didn't come without a reason and it felt so stupid to do anything I would do, from the back, so I let him do what he wanted, what he came in for.

I still felt like I could move and do what I wanted, but because we were co-con, and therefor sharing feelings, I don't know if we both could or if we just shared his feeling and I really couldn't. For me it felt like I know what he wants to do and then I do it for him.. kind of that way.. but probably I just felt what he was feeling, knowing what he wants and being able to do it. We went back to the start of our journal thread and started to read it, he wanted to know what I had told about us. Then I fell in sleep. That happens to me a lot if Sami is around, I fall in sleep while sitting down. I don't know if he makes me sleep or is that just a thing that happens. Another thing is that I can't read our journal thread without falling in sleep. There's something in it that my mind clearly doesn't want me to see, although I have written it all. However, it was not surprising I fell in sleep and when I woke up, he was gone.

Some people experience that a lot. It can vary how it feels like, how much control you have over the body, sometimes you can have it, sometimes not but you can still talk to the one in front and that way make an impact or you can be just a traveler without any ability to control anything, or you can be fully away, not knowing what happens. That's the famous car analogy, where car is the body. You can be the one driving a car, fully in control of it, one sitting next to the driver still seeing well and all, can even give give advice like use a map, or be in the back seat where it's harder to see and control what's happening but still you're aware of the fact you're going somewhere, or being in the trunk, not aware what's going on outside or in the car at all.

It's not uncommon to experience co-consciousness or being blended or being together in the body in DID. It feels different when it happens while you're the one who's driving than it feels if someone else drives, that's all. There's no other name for it than being in the body at the same time. I mean that parts where you are in the back, just watching what happens. There are lot of words for the mind thing, where you share your experience, but those you had already.

Passive influence is different from blending. When parts blend, they are together in the body sharing it, but there's no clear limits what feeling or thought belongs to what part, and it can be really hard to tell who you are. Or which one you are, if you know who are the ones in there, but you are blended. Then there is no clear experience of someone else being there with you, more of an experience of you becoming one with someone else without limits for a moment. If you are blended, you can't tell which one controls the situation more, because you both/all are all over the place.

Passive influence is when someone else's thoughts and feelings etc. leak into your mind, and you can't tell the difference what's you and what's theirs, but the other one is not sharing the body. So you're the one driving, but someone from outside leaks into your mind and you are not fully you. It can be hard to tell the difference between blending and passive influence. To me it's more like, if you're blended, you don't really know who are you. If it's passive influence, you think it's all just you, but later on you found out, or realize suddenly it isn't. Because you know someone else likes more about what ever you are doing at the moment, and you don't, except now because of passive influence. You still know who you are, although you are influenced by someone else.

In co-consciousness you can communicate both ways fully and it happens naturally, you feel what the other one is feeling and thinking. I don't think if it counts as co-consciousness if you talk with someone and you are able to hear them, but not feel them. That is just communication, not shared consciousness.

Then there are ten thousand different states somewhere between these, because things can't really be put in the boxes with delusion it covers every experience there can be. However, what ever it is, most likely that is totally normal in DID.

Parafoxical wrote:Suuuuper hesitantly, the only thing that I can think of is integration. Of course, both parts have to be consciously willing to integrate in order for that to happen. Actually, I think only one has to be. Here's a good video talking about an unexpected integration.
[url][/http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+entropy+system+mistletoe+integrating&view=detail&mid=9D4BBC944D050F5D5F8B9D4BBC944D050F5D5F8B&FORM=VIREurl]
I hope that this is helpful, and wish you best of luck with whatever's going on.
-Leana, non-DID, female

Wait! What?! You can unexpectedly intergrate?!

Sorry I panicked for no reason lol

When I am online, especially on this forum, I know one of my alters, mainly Autumn J is near. I can sense him. Feel him, hear his thoughts. He is ready to slip in, take over in case anything is triggering. When this happens, he blocks me from seeing the forum. So I won't be triggered.

If I am feeling unwell, I can sense other alters, who it is varies, who do similar. Ready to step in when I need to rest. I go inside to rest and they take over.

I have never known the names for these occurrences, they just are. They are something that just happens in my system. It is what it is.

- Purple Haze