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by myce » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:46 pm
If they stay there I will just have to learn to live ignoring them.
Maybe your mom just learned to live ignoring you. Dnester, everyone here except for you can see that you have a major dissociative disorder. Not everyone experiences it the same way. As long as you keep entertaining nonsense like this, you're just delaying your own treatment. Not only that but you're insulting and wasting people's time who are trying to help you, not to mention harming yourself.
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by Rive » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:47 pm
I wish my mother ignored me rather than make my life constant hell by belittling me and making fun of me everyday. I am not trying to insult anyone. I am just saying for me maybe it would be best to not focus on it. Maybe just maybe the voices will die down and and the bad parts wont show up as much. That's been my experience in the past with the bad parts not showing up as much. I dont see the harm in giving it a try. Maybe I am making my symptoms worse by focusing on them so much. It's worth a try. I am still going to go to therapy. I am just not going to engage in talks with my parts right know outside of therapy. I want things to die down. If they do I will know they are just symptoms of over thinking right?
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by Allcoulors » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:52 pm
Right?
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by TheGangsAllHere » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:31 pm
There is no such thing as a bad part. Every part of you is important and exists for a reason. As long as you keep labeling them as bad and trying to ignore them, things are not going to improve. You don't have to open things up so quickly that you are overwhelmed, but constant avoiding and ignoring just delays any kind of healing.
It's a long and difficult process, but if you want to put it off until you're older, that's your choice. There are many people on here, myself included, who wish that we became aware of parts when we were younger and had let less of our lives go by before we started really getting to know ourselves.
You don't need to spend every minute thinking about them, but giving them some acknowledgement and respect can go a long way. You are completely contradicting yourself to mention the constant lifelong abuse by your mother that contributed to the existence of your parts and then call the parts "symptoms of overthinking."
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by Zor » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:37 pm
Dnester wrote:I have spent two days on a Reddit forum talkimg with schizophrenics and people with DID. There is no difference in what they experience as voices. Both are the same.
They are very different, and you say you don't say things that are insulting- telling everyone here all of us like "you're wrong, you are no diff than..." IS insulting itself. It is totally diff, caused by like totally diff things, and has very diff ways symptoms work and manifest...
Just cuz some yahoos on Reddit (may as well get your info from Wikipedia) say so... doesn't make THEM right and everyone living with it wrong- especially with T's and docs all properly diagnosing and treating many of us.
Acting like you believe what you said to start this thread isn't true, only to get known here to post stuff like this later IS insulting and rude to all of us; especially those that take time to try and help you.
So like someone else said, either accept your T is right and this IS something you have, or deny it and best of luck to you... But like either way, stop hurting people HERE with this kinda behavior and these kinda comments and actions, please. Living with DID is already hard enough and we don't need ppl in safe places for us being like this to us. It's not right and it's not fair.
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by Rive » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:07 pm
I am strictly talking about me. I believe we have to hold on to our truths. My voices are very schizophrenic like. And not much like DID voices. Since the voices are MY main symptom I have to address it like I feel it is because it doesnt make sense to me to treat it any other way right now. I am not saying I wont be back here. Im not saying I will stop seeing my DID specialist. Im not saying what y'all say doesnt matter. I appreciate every single one of you guys help so much. I am just saying it doesnt make sense to me right now. People can tell me I am in denial. People can tell me anything they want. I dont know anything right now but I dont fit the DID diagnosis. I have not heard voices since childhood my voices just started this year at age 42,my voices dont comment on things like whether or not I like ice cream or dont, my voices say irrelevant things like hey can I sit beside you followed by my name, my littles dont even pop out that much. How can you have DID and a not very active child alter when DID is created in childhood. Im not asking for an answer. It is a wives tale that schizophrenic voices are only heard outside. Some schizophrenics hear internally too. I dont know if I am schizophrenic. I dont know if I am DID. Nothing makes sense to me so for now in this moment I am going to take a break and just chill as see if I can gather some peace. I need some piece. Focusing on my voices is only making them stronger. I know for schizophrenics if they ignore there voices they let up. I'm going to give it a try because I can't cope right now. I live in a group home and I have all this stuff in my head. I just need some peace. I'm tired. My voices aren't helping me in my daily life. They arent making decisions for me. Telling me what would look appropriate to go in public in. Or what not to eat because its not healthy. They are saying come sit next to me (reffering to myself) they are talking about a son I dont have, they are talking about people getting hurt, they are saying hey come here.They are talking about irrelevant things. No matter how much I speak to them I get no more clarity as to what they are trying to tell me. Different parts dont write in my journal. I see no difference in handwriting and what is written makes no sense in daily life ir at all mist of the time. I am starting to feel there is no way out. No way to quiet them and they are makimg my life hell. Before I get to thst point I want to step back and see if thry die down. You guys alters are helpful I get that. I also get were it would be insulting for you to hear mine arent helpful. I'm am not trying to insult anyone. You are all beautiful helpful people. Just right know its not MY truth.
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by Zor » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:01 pm
Dnester wrote: How can you have DID and a not very active child alter when DID is created in childhood. Im not asking for an answer.
Cuz that's HOW it works. If it's better for the system to remain hidden, it does. Zor didn't know we existed until last April... not really. He KNEW us, but as friends and entirely apart from him. He had no idea... we'd kept ourselves hidden and he had just clues he NEVER put together until AFTER he knew... Sometimes hiding (yes, even for decades) IS the way to survive for a system... even if it's not a conscious decision, sometimes it's just how we function.
Sometimes that means NOT having the communication or overt influence clearly seen/known to the host or any given part(s). It just doesn't ALWAYS LOOK THE SAME... EVERY case is diff. You've been told that dozens of times, too. Stop rejecting that and trying to assert "my view is the ONLY view" sorta rigid definitions on everything and everyone as a way to discredit and dismiss it.
Dnester wrote:It is a wives tale that schizophrenic voices are only heard outside. Some schizophrenics hear internally too. I dont know if I am schizophrenic. I dont know if I am DID.
Actually, it's a clinically defined facet OF schizophrenia... Not "a wive's tale"- stop taking things like Reddit as fact, please.
"Auditory hallucinations, or hearing voices, is a common symptom in people living with schizophrenia."
https://www.verywellmind.com/hearing-vo ... ia-2953099
"Hallucinations cause people to hear or see things that are not there. Approximately three-fourths of individuals with schizophrenia will hear voices (auditory hallucinations) at some time during their illness."
https://mentalillnesspolicy.org/medical ... .html/amp/
"When it comes to schizophrenia, one of the most common questions is where do these inner voices come from? It turns out that people with schizophrenia are actually hearing their own voices in their heads. This is due to a phenomenon called subvocal speech, which most of us experience in a slightly different way."
https://www.mentalhelp.net/blogs/decodi ... zophrenia/
What I meant by "outside" is they are NOT the person or system originating. They are something ELSE other than another part of your whole. I don't mean you think you physically HEAR it (though many DO)... it's an entirely DIFFERENT origin for Schizophrenic voices... they are HALLUCINATIONS. Totally diff..
As for not knowing... well you have told us over and over you have a T that made a diagnosis and THAT PERSON KNOWS THE DIFF between them, right?! Just cuz some fools on Reddit made you think otherwise... seriously?! Some idiots on Reddit make you think they know more than your T?! A clinically TRAINED professional?! Even to the point that everyone here who disagrees with Reddit is ignored?! What makes Reddit sooooooo perfect and sooooo exceptionally qualified?!
And you don't know?! You post here as your alters! You have them in your sig! You have said they exist! Are all those things made up lies?! Are you playing games?! Seriously... what the heck!?
Dnester wrote:Just right know its not MY truth.
whatever... no such thing as "my truth". It IS or it ISN'T. You have threads ALL ABOUT your alters, list some in your sig... yet post crap like this basically saying it's all BS and the entire of DID is nothing diff than Schizo... when they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT!
You have a doc that has given you a diagnosis you sometimes wanna post about like it's so legit accepted, but then do this... Whatever... just please... stop.
Accept it. Reject it. Whichever... but please... stop with this "it's all the same, I don't care what you say... cuz Reddit ppl told me this, so you (and everyone else, including my doc and me when I wanna be) are all wrong" crap. It's tiring and it's insulting.
{\Pixie/} -- Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:04 pm --
You know what... forget it. Zor had removed you from this "Foe" list once before... but for OUR own good.... I am putting you BACK there so we don't have to see this drama and nonsense.
Navigating life with DID and learning how to accept it and live with it is already super hard... we don't need this crap beating us (or any part of us) up like this... So done with the BS.
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by Rive » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:16 pm
Everything you mentioned is exactly why I think I have schizophrenia. I dont even know if my alters are real. They could be moods. They could be Borderline traits. They certaintly dont come out often. All I am trying to say is right now I reject DID. Right know I am going to let it go.
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by theBalancingAct » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:38 pm
You do realize that it's entirely possible to have both BPD traits and DID, right? We have it. One does not mean you can't have the other or make having the other be impossible
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by Rive » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:02 pm
Yes I could have both. I could also be schizophrenic. I could have 3 mental illnesses. I could have two. I could have one and because I can't know what is coming from where I can't cope.
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