Self-healing method that are bringing results

I'd like to mention here, some method that I have now seen bringing some significant improvements
to those with dissociative issues.

1) get yourself a jaccuzzi : spend at least 6 hours in a row inside the water with bubbles.
If you can, try to rent one just for a day.

2) after the 6 hours of jacuzzi, get yourself to eat as full as you can : fruits, cakes, fruits, you name it. Anything you like. So get this at home before starting.

3) then, the most important : get a notebook and write everything bad that happened to you. Draw, write names, incidents. This for 2 hours.

4) get back into the jacuzzi, with some very smoothing music

5) get to the bookstore, to read around the subjects. Usually 3 books ( biographies, etc) at least.

For some reasons, you'll process memories without re-traumatising yourself. And you'll have made a step forward.

Only do this once a month.

Feel free to ask questions : there are techniques to self-heal.

Take care

I like this but replace with a spa day, I don't have room for a jacuzzi!

I find a massage is good at training me to be more comfortable with personal space and touch

Drawing and music is really good. I like to play with synthesisers!

A jacuzzi can actually be rented
The benefits of renting one is :
- the person does not become self-conscious, as there is nobody around eyeing them.
- the person can adjust the jacuzzi temperature and intensity of the bubbles during the 6 hours.
And 6 hours can be pretty long

The massage approach is a very good one, but some people, going through dissociation, can have difficulties letting other people touch their body. Also, let's remember that very often dissociation is linked to sexual abuse of some sorts and/or extreme violence.
You have also to realise that allowing the person , and any alter, to bring up very traumatic memories into the conscious, without bring out all the other alters to react, is very important: the 6 hours jacuzzi, couples with a pleasurable meal seem to allow this. Unfortunately, it is better to only do it once a month, and not more. The readings around whatever comes out and one has written, i.e. one has been able to allow the various consciousness to bring out and accept, is also critical.
It is very often difficult just to bring out consciously many aspects of a trauma.

Actually: why don't you try it, just as it is ?

I just wanted to say that trying to process traumatic memories on your own can be dangerous. You need to have a very, very good cooperation and trust among your system, and the ability to stay co-conscious/co-present no matter what happen (specially if you have suicidal alters).

I've recently been in a place where I had no other choice than doing it alone, one of us just kept having a strong and very distressing flashback, and we still have no T. We finally made it, but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. We're stable enough to function well on a daily basis, we totally trust each other, we're used to manage our suicidal alters, but this was scary and difficult as hell. If we can, we will never do this without a therapist again. That's why we never talked about it here, we don't want to let people think this is a good idea - for us, it's not. Not at all.

It's better, easier and safer to find a trained therapist to do that.

Sorry, but I don't buy this.

Could you link me the studies that tell what is this based on, why would it work. Also what is the name of this treatment, and link to studies that proof that it works.

Six hours in water is not normal to human being. Once you are in the water, you body starts to lose fluids. Six hours makes you dehydrated. The fact it wasn't told makes me way too suspicious to believe there's any knowledge behind any of this.

Don't believe in things which starts with something dangerous, and it's not told to you. (Probably because lack of basic knowledge. If this is based on dehydration, it should be told. If it's not, there should be advice about drinking.) Why would the rest of it be suddenly safe?

Floralie wrote:Sorry, but I don't buy this.

Could you link me the studies that tell what is this based on, why would it work. Also what is the name of this treatment, and link to studies that proof that it works.

Six hours in water is not normal to human being. Once you are in the water, you body starts to lose fluids. Six hours makes you dehydrated. The fact it wasn't told makes me way too suspicious to believe there's any knowledge behind any of this.

Don't believe in things which starts with something dangerous, and it's not told to you. (Probably because lack of basic knowledge. If this is based on dehydration, it should be told. If it's not, there should be advice about drinking.) Why would the rest of it be suddenly safe?

Your reaction is very instructive.

As a disclaimer, you remind me of the story of one woman who manipulated with fear a mother into
locking her own adult daughter in a psychiatric hospital with the reasoning that, as her daughter was dry fasting, her intention was to kill herself by dehydration. Unfortunately for the daughter,
there had been a pic in suicide in the area, and the local emergencies and hospital were on watchlist for any new suicides.


May I ask you : what link do you see between a jacuzzi and dehydration?

-- Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:30 pm --

Dwelt,

First, you have to realise that many people do not have the luxury of having a therapist, even less a very well trained one. Also, may I ask you : "How long, how many years have you been in therapy? and how long with a very well trained one? how comes, despite being with a very well trained one?".

Now, you are addressing the dangers of self-Healing. However, you are saying that you have done some on your own. It was hard, and you went through the hardship, and you have moved one step forward. Do you realize that those who carry the extremely heavy load of dissociation are going through the hardship roughly every day and this for many many years ? Why do you wish for them to keep on suffering ? Just asking.

- and I am not charging fees nor money for this gift.
Too many are suffering and they need to move forward.

Floralie wrote:Could you link me the studies that tell what is this based on, why would it work. Also what is the name of this treatment, and link to studies that proof that it works.

I have similar concerns to Floralie. I'd like to see the studies and research. Where exactly have you seen this method being used (clinics, medical supervision, etc?), and what specific improvements have the patients experienced?

iwanna2help wrote:May I ask you : what link do you see between a jacuzzi and dehydration?

I don't know specifically about dehydration, but our parents had a jacuzi at their last house. The instructions included a manufacturers warning against using it for more than 1 hour at a time. In fact the control that activated the bubbles had a 1-hour maximum limit, and was positioned some distance away so that it couldn 't be operated without getting out and walking to it.

iwanna2help wrote:and I am not charging fees nor money for this gift.

You know what they say about the value of free advice. What exactly are your credentials again?

Arin

VioletFlux wrote:

Floralie wrote:Could you link me the studies that tell what is this based on, why would it work. Also what is the name of this treatment, and link to studies that proof that it works.

I have similar concerns to Floralie. I'd like to see the studies and research. Where exactly have you seen this method being used (clinics, medical supervision, etc?), and what specific improvements have the patients experienced?

iwanna2help wrote:May I ask you : what link do you see between a jacuzzi and dehydration?

I don't know specifically about dehydration, but our parents had a jacuzi at their last house. The instructions included a manufacturers warning against using it for more than 1 hour at a time. In fact the control that activated the bubbles had a 1-hour maximum limit, and was positioned some distance away so that it couldn 't be operated without getting out and walking to it.

iwanna2help wrote:and I am not charging fees nor money for this gift.

You know what they say about the value of free advice. What exactly are your credentials again?

Arin

Arin,

1 hour maximum in a jacuzzi : I really exploded laughing at that.
Sorry my dear, one can stay in a jacuzzi from 09 am till 21:00. This from someone who is used to
centers with jacuzzi. May be you are confusing with SAUNA : yes, sauna have a righ risk for hydration, and for MOST sauna, 1 hour maximum is recommended, but SOME sauna can be used for up to 3 hours.

Any other assertions ?

iwanna2help wrote: Any other assertions ?

Three more in fact, which you conveniently overlooked.

1) What research / studies can you point to, explaining this treatment method?

2) Where exactly have you seen this 'method' being used. Clinic? Medical supervision? What specific improvements did the patients experience?

3) What are your credentials again, to be recommending treatment?

Arin

iwanna2help wrote:May I ask you : what link do you see between a jacuzzi and dehydration?

Are you serious?? It raises your body's core temperature, which is the same as having a fever. You sweat to reduce your temperature, although it's hard to notice that you're doing so because you're sitting in water. Prolonged sweating results in dehydration. There are other negative effects to prolonged hyperthermia, including organ damage.

You didn't mention a recommendation for the water temperature, which would be a key factor. I think the only way one could stay in water for that long would be if it's at normal body temperature--so it wouldn't really feel warm. Little of what you said has made sense. Why 6 hours? Why not 5 or 7 or 4.3?

I won't even get into the other bizarre recommendations. Read 3 books??