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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby Una+ » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:43 pm

I have a comment about therapists recommending you not read trauma treatment books, not join trauma therapy groups, etc. Frequently that caution reflects experience and concerns about emotional and psychological stability. Your own stability, and the stability of other participants in a group. For what it is worth, I got the same advice early on and I resented it, but I learned it was good advice and I needed to slow down.

If a workbook is so triggering that you feel you need help with it, then a group setting is likely to make the triggering worse not better. You may not be ready for that particular group, or that group may not be ready for you.

Also, many therapy groups work in progressive stages, building on prior work as they go, so that the participants all start out at roughly the same place and move forward together. DBT groups are that way. New participants usually do not enter the group in the middle; they are required to wait for a new group to start.

Are you a "highly cognitive" person? Do you need, want, tolerate huge amounts of psychoeducation? If so, consider using this group, DID Forum, more heavily. I am highly cognitive and so before I would slow down I needed to know why slowing down would be good for me. Eventually I did learned why and slow down.

As DID expert Richard Kluft is fond of saying, slower is faster because the overall therapy time is reduced if treatment is relatively stable.
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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby Bejer » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:09 pm

Hope things went well with calling your T and stuff!
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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby fireheart » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:21 am

@Una, thank you for adding another perspective! I love that saying you posted, "slower is faster".

@Bejer, thanks for thinking of us!
I saw my T yesterday and, to be completely honest, it only made things worse.
I feel like if I would respect myself more, I would quit therapy.
I get the impression that she has no idea what she is doing.
She said she will diagnose me with a dissociative disorder when we will end treatment together, so it won't interfere with having funding for it. Or, well, that's what I think she meant. She was really vague and weird about the reason.
I know it sounds ideal, she will just listen to me and do whatever I think I need. But it makes me feel incredibly scared and alone.
Maybe I made a mistake by trusting her.
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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby Bejer » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:58 pm

Oh I'm so sorry:( This creates way too much room for speculation and insecureness and has nothing to do with funding. You get funding for every 'specialistische ggz' treatment your doctor refers you to, regardless of pd or dd. Maybe just e-mail her one sentence so she can't be vague anymore? Something like; this makes me really scared and that's not helping; why this vagueness about my official dx?

T's should give clarity, what ever reason she has for this vagueness, is not good for your wellbeing. I hope you can shake it off a bit, to not let it affect you too much in your daily stuff:( You haven't changed, your inside hasn't changed. Your situation is not suddenly different, now. T's are being pricks now, but you are still the exact same fireheart as before that.

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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby fireheart » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:10 pm

Yes... I will probably just ask her again next session. :/

Thanks for reminding me that nothing has changed. :)
I just feel very insecure at the moment. Yesterday night I had a moment where I thought, yes, actually this whole ordeal has been retraumatizing. It's like all consequences lie with me, and no one else. That feels unfair, and I think it reminds me of the past.

I'm going to be fine. It just takes some time. 8)
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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby littleDaria » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:19 pm

Una+ wrote:
As DID expert Richard Kluft is fond of saying, slower is faster because the overall therapy time is reduced if treatment is relatively stable.


"Slower Is faster" wish we could wrap our head around thst; its a rather dialectical statement. It doesn't help that we (some of us at any rate) seem to want to forge ahead into our darkest of memories on the principal of no pain no gain. Our T says "inside thinks in order to succeed in therapy you have to go through terror dread the unbearable."

Fortunately she went on to say, "nobody will ever have to do what they want to do. And if if somebody tried to make you, your protectors won't allow it".
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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby NyxX » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:24 pm

I think we might be the opposite and seem to be thinking slow and steady wins the race. But sometimes I wonder if we will ever get to where we want to be because we avoid so much. We are making progress but it's so very slowly.
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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby Bejer » Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:29 pm

fireheart wrote:Yes... I will probably just ask her again next session. :/

Thanks for reminding me that nothing has changed. :)
I just feel very insecure at the moment. Yesterday night I had a moment where I thought, yes, actually this whole ordeal has been retraumatizing. It's like all consequences lie with me, and no one else. That feels unfair, and I think it reminds me of the past.

I'm going to be fine. It just takes some time. 8)


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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby fireheart » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:09 pm

littleDaria wrote:"Slower Is faster" wish we could wrap our head around thst; its a rather dialectical statement. It doesn't help that we (some of us at any rate) seem to want to forge ahead into our darkest of memories on the principal of no pain no gain. Our T says "inside thinks in order to succeed in therapy you have to go through terror dread the unbearable."

Fortunately she went on to say, "nobody will ever have to do what they want to do. And if if somebody tried to make you, your protectors won't allow it".

NyxX wrote:I think we might be the opposite and seem to be thinking slow and steady wins the race. But sometimes I wonder if we will ever get to where we want to be because we avoid so much. We are making progress but it's so very slowly.


I think any progress is better than no progress.

And yes, sometimes I also overwhelm myself because I feel like that's how it should work, this healing thing.

This reminds me of a post on birdsong's website. Maybe you'll like it.
https://www.dis-sos.com/no-unicorns/
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Re: SCID-D assessment

Postby fireheart » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:36 pm

I asked about diagnosis again & this time I trusted her answer.
She will diagnose me as having a dissociative disorder with alters, in the future.
That's better. She's not tricking me into believing that she believes me, like the clinic thought.

She also wants to come up with a plan on which T I could see if something were to happen to her. I like that, too. Even though I don't really want to think about having anything happen to her.

The session was good. I (Fox) went, not the one who usually writes here. I was mainly quiet and gave her a sheet of paper with all my questions.

Some little came through and cried a little bit when T said that she will answer all my questions as many times as I need her to. That was too nice.
I don't think she saw & I didn't get why there were some weird tears on my cheek, but then I remembered that it was probably R who just fronted for a millisec.

I think it is very brave and skillful that T was able to restore our connection.

She believes me. I told her nothing in our session and answered most questions with "It's a secret", and still she kept being nice.
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