Therapist said I dont have alters. Are her reasons valid?

I know I posted about this before, but I still feel really invalid, so I hope it's okay if I post about it again.

Here are my therapist's reasons:

• No amnesia
• My mannerisms don't change when I hear my alter's voice
• I haven't switched in front of her and I've been going to her since June. It honestly takes a lot for me to switch, and I've started to multiple times in her office. I just never reached the switch.
• I would have switched when she challenged me having alters, apparently.
• She says I don't fully switch, but I do. I'm just to some degree co-conscious everytime. Most of the time, I'm barely there. My alter only hears me say a few things.
• Others would have noticed. However, DID/OSDD can be a covert disorder, and others have noticed. My alter just pretends to be me. She claimed this was just an excuse to try to have the disorder.

I've read the dissociative disorder section of the DSM-5, and I don't see how any of this impacts me receiving a diagnosis. And when I asked this previously, everyone said they'd get a new therapist. I just...need more validation, I guess.

validateme wrote:I've read the dissociative disorder section of the DSM-5, and I don't see how any of this impacts me receiving a diagnosis. And when I asked this previously, everyone said they'd get a new therapist. I just...need more validation, I guess.

Ok, here's more validation. I would get a new therapist. This current one doesn't sound like she understands how to diagnose or treat DID/OSDD. It doesn't sound like she will validate you, so you may want to think about finding a therapist who will listen to your experience instead of arguing with it.

Her reasons aren’t valid ( in my opinion ). Plus her saying this is an excuse to have this disorder? That’s crazy .
My DIDness is very hidden most of the time -that’s how it’s set up to be . It’s taken years with my therapist for those inside to communicate. Seeing her since June is not long at all.

Get rid of this therapist. Drop her. Whether or not you have DID, no therapist who has any understanding of dissociative disorders would claim that you could not have DID. Barely competent therapists do not attempt to determine for you what your internal experience is or is not.

No amnesia. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. People with DID have had amnesia at some point in their lives, certainly childhood, but not necessarily in adulthood. What she claims is simply wrong. Many people with DID have no amnesia. I don't have it.
She says I don't fully switch, but I do. How in the world would she know? Claiming some certainty about what you yourself are experiencing based on her observation is incredibly unprofessional. It's incompetent. Over how many years dealing with how many DID clients did she develop her expertise to determine that?
Others would have noticed. Wrong! Where in the world did she make that up from? Watching a made-for-TV movie about DID? There are posts from dozens of people just on this board who've never been told by other people that they noticed anything that suggested DID.

Unless you're misreading or misremembering every one of the points you say she's made, and I don't think you are, she cannot help you. If you have DID or any dissociative disorder and she's trying to convince you that you don't, that is dangerous for you. She may well not believe in DID or believe it's so rare that she'd never encounter anyone with it. Or she may be afraid you will seek out a more competent therapist and leave her. Who knows? By the way, did I mention, do that.

Imagine telling a doctor you've seen for a few months that you often get splitting headaches and they respond, well, you couldn't because you've visited me every week and I've never seen you have one. Stop trying to convince yourself you're having headaches, you're just trying to have them. Then you say, well, I've had one on and off the past half hour and they return, well, I don't see it, so no you don't.

Don't try to work things out with this therapist. She is trying to manipulate your reality for unknown reasons by imposing hers. It's something that others have experienced on this board, when they first visit or remembering their worst therapist.

so its like her opinion?

has she ever heard of the MID or the SCID-D?

I don't know whether to **eye roll** or *facepalm* but I would drop her a like a hot potato.

bye felicia.

Why are you in therapy? What is distressing you? What made you seek out help?

My guess is you did not seek help because you have an alter. What does this therapist think is your difficulty? How does she plan to help you?

If my house was burning down, it would not matter whether I had DID or not. I would need the Fire Dept. If you have life difficulties that are situational, perhaps this therapist can help you.

Not everything that goes wrong in life is due to childhood trauma or the coping mechanisms used.

I went into therapy because of difficulties that arose in adulthood. But my therapist kept focusing on my childhood trauma and DID. This was not why I went into therapy and it did not address what made me seek out help.

I lIke and have needed validation in the past. I think maybe argue for the side of, the alter being created with not alot of need to use its presentation. Say for instance, a guarded conversation amongst two people very short tooo the point. It might be narrowed down to the instance at the point of creation having had yet to get into it is emotional side et where it is using its eye brows postures inflections.

This may or not make sense, but ask the clinican to allow a reshare, too test amnesia surely you won't do it verbatim nor the alter

Hi again. In this thread on September 30, 2017,

validateme wrote:My therapist doesnt believe in co-consciousness, and therefore doesnt believe I have DID/OSDD. She also doesn't believe I experienced sexual abuse despite numerous pieces of evidence (asexuality, never stopped bed wetting, knowledge of sex at a young age before being taught it, past hypersexuality at a young age, the fact i have alters, sex repulsion, instinct feeling i was sexually abused even before remembering trauma, fear of sex, daydream of rape not because i want it to happen but because i feel i deserve it). She says it's because i wouldnt have been okay for the years that I was and that the person who i suspect did it doesnt seem like the type of person to do it. However, she does believe I was emotionally abused by her, but that doesnt add up. She's being hypocritical. Do i change therapists and find one that specializes in dissociative disorders/trauma?

I'm remind you of your prior comments. Your therapist does not believe you experienced sexual abuse, in part because "the person who i suspect did it doesnt seem like the type of person to do it."

Going to a therapist who invalidates your memories, particularly in this absurdly unprofessional way, is committing malpractice.

I can't help but notice that your account name, validateme, seems to say it all. You need and deserve validation from someone purporting to help you.

validateme wrote:She'll figure out why I'm leaving and think badly of me...I'd still have to see her after because I go to the same clinic for group therapy.

Are you concerned she would cause you problems? Or would it just be a case of fearing to run into her again. The latter would say volumes about your relationship.

This is just plain horrifying to us, the antithesis of what therapy should be. Clearly she has a preconceived notion what DID is. We would leave and never go back.