Ability of Alter when they appear

Question I need help understanding something with my son.

Back in Dec, when we went into complete crisis mode from bullying at school, is when the part "officially" announced their presence. The little that came forward did not know anything, he did not know his siblings and we had to potty train over again. He has since grown up to 7 now back to 4, he says he was created by Austin back when he was 7.

The second part that came forward stated he was about the same age as Austin but he also had to be taught things such as how to feed the dogs, do dishes, but not potty train. Austin quickly learned how to transfer working memory to him.

Now my direct question is, if the parts were in the background for many years would they not know how to do things? Or because of officially announcing themselves is it like a new start.

I guess I am trying to pin point if the parts where truly created back at a little age or if they really were created during the crisis situation at school last Dec. I really believe he was dissociating since forever but maybe the part did not crystallize until last Dec.

The little also knows like everything, He can tell me things that I forgot about, names, events, and so forth. As can the other part. I have though worked very hard to open up full brain communication among the parts.

TIA for helping me understand.

Hi fmkeylock,

OK so sometimes we just don't know when parts started. Really isolated parts don't have markers to know about where they are with things so they don't know either. Just how old we feel. Also I think some parts aren't really there enough to know stuff until there's like a trauma. Kind of like pushing the on button but the machine was already there just sleeping. Sorry if this is confusing. It just is.

Iain

IainEtc wrote:Hi fmkeylock,

. Kind of like pushing the on button but the machine was already there just sleeping. Sorry if this is confusing. It just is.

Iain

Thanks, that makes complete sense. I think the crisis issue at school was the final kick that started the machine, but it has been in the works for a very long time. He was making noises at school for two weeks prior before they told me, he was not doing it home. The day the finally emailed me and said "I am not sure you are aware but Austin has been making animal noises at school for about two weeks, I do not think he realizes he is doing it" When I picked him up he was in a complete state of dissociation, so it is like they withheld the info until there was a complete crisis. I picked up a different child than I dropped off. We were in full crisis mode and sotoseizures started a couple days later. (there was an ongoing bullying issue, the school insisted it was my son, my son said it was other kids) It was very difficult to determine what was going on as he always since daycare had peer to peer difficulties and I see how he is with his siblings. But I have since found out that the pastor spanked my son a few times that I did not know about and some other things were going on.

Hi,

You're smart to realize if he's going around dissociated then SOMETHING happened. I know sometimes we came home from school a different person. Sometimes we thought we were the same but we were really somebody else.

Spanking is REALLY hard! Angry protector parts are totally SCREAMING to attack and the Littles are CRYING and we're just GONE. And the spanker thinks it doesn't hurt enough so they need to do it harder or maybe something more awful. And you can't talk anymore so they lock you in the closet because you're an evil boy who doesn't appreciate all they do for you and won't say you're sorry.

I need to stop now. Sorry. Hope you're kid is alright.

It varies. Some insiders are awake, some are "dead" / asleep / in stasis for years even decades. The awake ones may be aware only of the inner world; others may remain inside but be watching and listening the outside world at least some of the time. Others maybe very awake, aware, and always on guard. Some may pass messages to the host or through the host. Some may seize executive control.

Those who have (or are given) executive control only in certain situations may be unaware of anything between times; they experience life as a series of isolated but similar (usually traumatic) events with literally nothing in between. They lose time.

DID therapy is all about enhancing internal communication between all the parts. This affects not only the host but all the insiders as well. Any and all of them can have severe amnesia and/or acquire memories from others.

IainEtc wrote:Hi,

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I am sorry for triggering you, thank you so much for sharing, it made so much sense.

-- Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:40 pm --

Una+ wrote:It varies. Some insiders are awake, some are "dead" / asleep / in stasis for years even decades. The awake ones may be aware only of the inner world; others may remain inside but be watching and listening the outside world at least some of the time. Others maybe very awake, aware, and always on guard. Some may pass messages to the host or through the host. Some may seize executive control.

Those who have (or are given) executive control only in certain situations may be unaware of anything between times; they experience life as a series of isolated but similar (usually traumatic) events with literally nothing in between. They lose time.

DID therapy is all about enhancing internal communication between all the parts. This affects not only the host but all the insiders as well. Any and all of them can have severe amnesia and/or acquire memories from others.

Thank you, this also provides a great deal of info to process and for me understand as we continue through our journey.

He starts school soon, a new school, very specialized, they are aware of what is going on, and will be taking great measures to help him be successful. I realized that I needed to make sure the little had a place while the bigs where in school. When I started to discuss this with him the little already told me that Austin created a VPK for him to go to while he was in big school. I was like alrighty then, you are a step ahead of me.

fmkeylock wrote:

IainEtc wrote:Hi,

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I am sorry for triggering you, thank you so much for sharing, it made so much sense.

That was my fault. Evan was getting triggered and I ignored it until it was too late. He's just a little kid and can't help it. We took care of him so he's better now.

Glad it helps. This is complicated on the inside it's got to be SUPER complicated on the outside. Hope the special school works out. It's great that Austin is already figuring out what the system needs. That's part of normal development for DID kids. I mean learning how to handle your own system.

Iain