For the teenagers!

Hey again, all of you, and nice to meet ya Mo. Handshake shoulder tap, or if you're no touching type of person, no touch then.

Mo, are you a guy or a girl or not? How old are you? Imma guy and 16.

V2 about piercings and body mods.. wrote an answer once, but then lost it. Probably previewed instead of sending, and then wasn't up to writing it all again. This needs trigger warning about religious stuff in here I guess, but I don't think there's anything super negative in here. Can't know how other people feel about it. I put plenty of !!! where trigger warning ends.

Anyway, I was raised in religious community, and I was happy there, felt safe. Here's how I was raised.. Rules about looks are simple in there, haircuts are fine, but any altering of your appearance not so good. It's not considered a sin, how it was explained to me is more like .. I think there's real beauty behind it. God made people his own image, and that's why we're all perfect the way we are. We don't need different hair color or make up or anything that makes us look something we're not naturally, because we're already perfect. I still live to that thought some ways, like I never complain about the way I look or comment negatively anyone else's appearance, it's a principal I believe in and there's wisdom behind it. To me it sound sad that if a girl/woman uploads a picture of herself without make up, it's something so weird people call it brave and they have their face in magazine because of that. I mean, that is the way they really look like, the most natural thing, not news. But all kind of fixing is so normal, people with nothing wrong in them need to use make up and do plenty of stuff to look new normal. And soon everyone needs to be surgically altered to fit the new criteria or beauty, and I don't think it's freedom.

I'm up to learning how other people think. I don't know how I think to be honest, I work in business where appearance means a lot, and can't figure out where my own boundaries are with that. Sometimes I get these episodes when I take all piercings away and change my clothes and wanna wear something modest, wanna erase all my sexual history and that makes me feel safe. But then it ends and and I change back to where I started.

One of my little sisters is born to be princess, you know that type of girl, loves her dresses and is into make up, hair and all that from very young, like 3 yo or something. I do what my parents do with her, we go to look at ourselves from the mirror and see how perfect she already is. But I think it's not a phase she'll grow over, and probably my parents will let her use make up later, when she'll be a teenager. They don't want her to lie, and the rules are not there to break people and change them into something they're not. When she grows older, it's her choice if she stays in the community and gives up the make up, or she leaves the community. When you choose to stay, it means you choose to follow all rules that come with it. Kids who are part of the community are different, because they have not made that decision yet, and make up thing is just a rule, it's not a sin. Dancing is against the rules too, but still I've danced all my life with my parents knowing about it. Dancing, singing or my bisexuality were not why I left, I could give them up, if I'd agree with community about the bigger things. I don't, and I think it's honest to leave then, but there's so much I miss in there still. But that is one thing all people talk about openly, that it is not easy to stay into believing, especially when your own sense of ethics tells you something different. But it's a choice you make, to stay, faith is not just a feeling. (Leaving the community doesn't mean you don't belong to your family anymore or anything like that, it's personal for everyone, between them and God and that is respected. Actually it's the other way round than ignoring or abandoning, they always tell you're welcome back any time.)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no more religion after this.

Body modification is whole new way of looking at appearance stuff, it comes from somewhere that don't belong under that kind of rules I think. How I've heard about it, it's more like self expression and art form or you know, something different than teens who need to use make up to look normal, because all their friends do too. And that's what's interesting about it. It's not my thing, but I think it's interesting, like how people who are into that think and feel about it and themselves. I know make up can be seen like that too, like a hobby or art form and self expression. And yeah, if you do feel outside body is yours DID makes things different too, there's more to that than just being "who you are naturally". Who you are is not a simple question.

Wow, this s gonna be one long post. It took me some time to write again, I'm not as good with words than some others in the system and explaining the whole thing again was lot of effort. + I felt for Sami too. I mean, I asked if anyone wanna see his pic, and nobody wanted, and .. that's just .. weird. I asked, cause I know people have hoped him to leave from the forum, but I still felt for him. I kinda hoped he could come in here for people to see how he is when he's not a defender. When all is good and he can relax and be who he really is, he's so affectionate and caring. I don't know if he can ever relax in here tho, because he's here to take care of the safety of the rest of us. Anyway, that was awkward, so let's pretend it never happened.

LUCAS

Hi Lucas

I''m a girl or rather a tom boy. I'm into bodybuilding and stuff but I also like corsets and heavy shoes. I cant have peircings cos the body is allergic to nickel. I used to do temporary tattoos with charcol based eyeliner. (I can't have henna - allergies) Pritty good at it too. that kinda got banned somewhere along the lines but now that our Husband realises I'm not the one who is uber depresive I'm hoping to start body art again.

At the moment I am going through a ziggy stardust/adam and the ants phase I tend to flop between steampunk and happy goth.

I tend to jump between 19 and 21. Though not 20. 20 was when I got pushed out of the body. So I'm either 19, time just stopped, or some days I feel 21 cos there's all these aches and pains that make me feel older than I remember but I defiantly DONT feel as if I am the body's age.

And I dont think anyone is poo pooing samis pic, stick it up . I think we kinda got caught up in the discussion about body mods. I mean tongue splitting is woah. - speaking of mods have any of you's in male bodies thought of having a king arthur? It makes me cringe just thinking about it and personally I don't see the point in splitting your dick in half but .....?

There's a pick somewhere of me IRL doing a strongman competition I was thinking of posting it but not sure if IRL photos are against the rules???

V2

I pierce our pigs ears (technically its called tagging.) If you live in a farming area you might be able to join the young farmers union (up here young farmers are classed as 16-49!) they can teach you how to pierce using ear guns and ear clamps. Some unions teach you how to notch ears as well (you cut a unique frill into the animals ear like a bar code) notching is only done on rare pedigree animals so its not always available. You can also learn slap marking, tattooing and freeze branding.

I prefer using the ear clamp.

I haven't tried it on a human but it would probably work .........

Union fees are way cheaper than collage.

ps. Grace got an undercut sometime a few weeks back. Her hair touches our bum! It used to really piss me off cause it was too long and heavy to do anything with. With the undercut I can reverse plat the long top layer. It sits on our head like a lumpy mohawk and whats underneath is short and I can gell it or not. I keep thinking of dying the short stuff a bold colour, it would only be seen when I put the long hair up but Hubby HATES hair dye says its "unatural" so I'm gonna have to give that idea a miss

Mo

Mo, piercing jewelry doesn't contain nickel, that sounds weird and unprofessional. Are you sure it's what they use in there? In here it's probably illegal. They're made of surgical steel or titanium. Some cheap earrings can have it in them, but you don't have buy those. Just use silver, gold, surgical steel or titanium on your ears too.

LUCAS

Hey, Cody--haven't heard from you in a while. How's things? We've had a lot of ups and downs. Yesterday was pretty good, tho.

It turns out that Thursday evenings are starting to be "my turn" for um, things with the husband guy, because I've just come from dance class, so I'm already kind of in charge, and the littles know that they'll get to see the T the next morning and have a lot of time for what they want to do on Friday afternoon. So they're sort of ok with staying out of the way for a little while--like going to bed early or whatever.

Did you see the T yesterday? Are things going any better with that whole thing?

Still your bff--
Sasha <3 <3 <3

Floralie wrote:Mo, piercing jewelry doesn't contain nickel, that sounds weird and unprofessional. Are you sure it's what they use in there? In here it's probably illegal. They're made of surgical steel or titanium. Some cheap earrings can have it in them, but you don't have buy those. Just use silver, gold, surgical steel or titanium on your ears too.

LUCAS

Back when I had my ears done (oooo decades ago) it was electroplated nickle silver. We found out I had an alergy about 2 weeks after the peircing. I must have cleaned it too vigorously or something cause the plating came away and I didnt notice but within minuets I had an ear the size of a dinner plate.

Even gold earings used to just be plated onto nickle (at least the ones in my budget were)

I'll have to check what metals they use in peircings now........

Hey Sasha!

I'm still just watching the new T. I guess she's not really a bad person. She totally helped Evan yesterday and didn't make him feel like sh*t for crying or anything. I'm just not ready to talk yet. Host is talking about giving her a system map and I'm all OH CR*P! It's got my name on it and what if the T asks? I'm kind of backing off from the system right now I guess. I can't stand how everybody else is SO disloyal to our old T!

I'm glad things are working out with husband time. Good thinking! Happy Milkshakes!

I SO want some piercings but Host is like NO WAY! 'Professional concerns' my a*s! He's just scared of needles!

Thanks for writing to me. Kind of lonely these days.

Cody

IainEtc wrote: Kind of lonely these days.

Cody

Hey Cody. I was about to say welcome, but maybe not a best way to greet someone who's been here way before me.

Kinda lonely too. I'm everything but lonely in my own world, but in here, well, I've never talked aloud to anyone.

I don't like therapy either. Not the one I have inside or the one we have in here. I don't want anyone to know my triggers or why they're there.

LUCAS

Hi Cody,

I'm sorry you've been lonely!

Yeah, your new T sounds pretty ok. Even if you're on the system map, it doesn't mean that you have to talk. I don't think they're being disloyal--you guys can't just wait around without therapy, and your old T agrees with that, right?

Does Host do some kind of work where even a small earring wouldn't be ok?? Hard to imagine that nowadays. Even lawyers, doctors, and businessmen can have that. If you're good at what you do, people don't care so much about your fashion choices as long as they're not super inappropriate.

We'll see if that Thursday idea keeps working--it's just a pattern I noticed, and it would be great to make it more regular. The husband would want it way more often if it was up to him, and so would I, but I gotta share time and make sure everyone else is being taken care of, right?

Hey, Lucas. I'm sorry you're also lonely. Writing here can be pretty good for that.

Sasha <3 <3 <3

Where are you all ???

LUCAS