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Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby humptydumpty » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:39 am

I've been trying to understand what has been happening lately, and I'm at a bit of a loss. The time loss, DP/DR, and co-conscious experiences are nothing new, but the severity of it is certainly new. I've listed out what's been going on:

-Elevated DP/DR

-Losing short bits of time 5-10 times per day, including conversations and work

-"I" feel like I am 10 seconds behind what "I" am doing. It's like I am not quite in control in the present
and only able to process the memory of what just happened...Sort of like witnessing echoes of the present?

-Trancing out frequently, sometimes during conversations.

-Feeling like my brain moves to the right whilst another (still unknown) part takes co-conscious control..This has happened before, but it happens a lot now and I have no control over it. This is bad because it's affecting my work.

-Frequently feeling co-aware and co-conscious with several other parts.

Perhaps I am just becoming more aware of "everyone"? If so, it has been making daily life quite difficult. For me, increased dissociation has always preceded remembering very bad things..Perhaps this is the cause of all this? Does anyone else experience all this?
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby watcheroflights » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:04 am

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Are you sure you are not going through rapid switching.We've been this way for three days.Wish it would stop.Makes us all tired ,feeling ran down and out of energy. Can't get out of bed.Sometimes it nice not to know everything that is going on.
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby moks » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:02 am

Everything you've listed happens to us more often than not. Especially in the last two months or so. It's constant co-consciousness, constant levels of mental awareness, constant "multiple" thought paths...

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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby Johnny-Jack » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:50 am

humptydumpty wrote:-"I" feel like I am 10 seconds behind what "I" am doing. It's like I am not quite in control in the present and only able to process the memory of what just happened...Sort of like witnessing echoes of the present?

This sounds familiar but not sure if it relates. We're co-conscious but when someone has been out for quite a while and I've faded back because it can be like watching an uneventful documentary about someone else, if someone comes in to talk to us expecting it to be me, whoever is out gets stuck (no time to switch to me) and they stay out. I can only follow what was just said, I process that and tell who's out to give a certain reply. I'm behind it and can only play catch up. if they keep talking, most of what they said will be lost. This has happened often enough with a T. I have just zoned out, I think someone else is technically in front. I know it's not me.

-Frequently feeling co-aware and co-conscious with several other parts.

This has happened to me a lot recently. We're getting better at crowding near the front and it's not particularly good.
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby Journalgirl » Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:47 pm

>>-"I" feel like I am 10 seconds behind what "I" am doing. It's like I am not quite in control in the present
and only able to process the memory of what just happened...Sort of like witnessing echoes of the present?>>

I have felt like this as well except it's more like a 1-3 sec delay in my ability to respond to what's being said and that combined with being foggy leads to me asking for things to be repeated often :cry: I didn't specifically think co-consciousness but I'm starting to wonder if that's the case...
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby humptydumpty » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:22 am

watcheroflights wrote:Are you sure you are not going through rapid switching.We've been this way for three days.Wish it would stop.Makes us all tired ,feeling ran down and out of energy. Can't get out of bed.Sometimes it nice not to know everything that is going on.
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I think you're right...I suppose when I recognize I was trancing out, I'm probably actually recognizing I'm "coming back".

The headaches seem to hit very frequently too. If the headaches are due to alters, then I suppose "they" have become more aware of me? Or vice versa??

Johnny-Jack wrote:I can only follow what was just said, I process that and tell who's out to give a certain reply. I'm behind it and can only play catch up. if they keep talking, most of what they said will be lost. This has happened often enough with a T. I have just zoned out, I think someone else is technically in front. I know it's not me.


"Playing catch up" describes it well! When I realize I have been switching out and realize I need to "catch up", I think it makes the dissociation more severe, but maybe I'm just becoming more aware of how dissociated I am in the moment?

Journalgirl wrote:I have felt like this as well except it's more like a 1-3 sec delay in my ability to respond to what's being said and that combined with being foggy leads to me asking for things to be repeated often I didn't specifically think co-consciousness but I'm starting to wonder if that's the case...


Could be, time will tell (in my experience).
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby PinkiePie » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:25 am

i can relate
to the point i cannot even answer properly
we are like this
it is okay but the delays the way I need to do one thing but I start doing something entirely else and then else and am lost, they used to tel me I am ADD\but i co-host
and i have the rapid switching very often
i will try to have a constructive response later on
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby Journalgirl » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:40 pm

Hi. The past week or so I have moved into this constant co-conscious state or so I think? Light to heavy face pressure and constant DP/DR. And I'm kind of dizzy with slight vertigo all the time.

Just wondering if this is co-consciousness or rapid switching? I have the "falling" feeling you get right before you fall asleep at night except I'm very awake and having mini- falls constantly. I used to be able to force a particular switch to clear my head. Now it seems that I am stuck like this maybe co conscious all the time?

It feels like too much of everything all the time. Could I be getting overwhelmed or overstimulated with being co conscious and stuck that way?

It feels like my system is shifting to everyone being here all the time and maybe I'm just not used to feeling everyone's feelings all the time. It's like I'm on a boat enduring waves of various intensity and I'm not able to get off the boat.
Anyone feel like this when you are co-conscious? Or maybe I am experiencing something else?
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby humptydumpty » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:08 am

Journalgirl wrote:Hi. The past week or so I have moved into this constant co-conscious state or so I think? Light to heavy face pressure and constant DP/DR. And I'm kind of dizzy with slight vertigo all the time.

Just wondering if this is co-consciousness or rapid switching? I have the "falling" feeling you get right before you fall asleep at night except I'm very awake and having mini- falls constantly. I used to be able to force a particular switch to clear my head. Now it seems that I am stuck like this maybe co conscious all the time?


I'm not sure exactly how to define it but I experience the same thing. In my experience, co-con is when I am stuck deep in my mind watching the body act as another alter...Rapid switching to me is sort of like witnessing life as if it were a watching a DVD that keeps skipping, if that makes sense .

The experience we are discussing doesn't quite fall into those descriptions...Based on my experiences, I would conjecture that we are "connecting" with alters that have emotions that are too overwhelming for us to face...The emergence of that overwhelming emotion/topic causes acute dissociation.

Do you have a signal that parts use to let you know they want to be heard? For example, I asked all my parts to make my left index finger twitch (ideally to tap my leg) whenever they are attempting to connect with me...It has been working brilliantly for me, and it has helped me identify when parts are triggered to take control.

Just out of curiosity, do you have dreams/nightmares in which you are falling? For me, I seem to have dreams in which I am rock climbing and suddenly start falling after days that were stressful/triggered dissociation. The sensation of falling in the dream is terrifying..I wonder if the feel of falling is dissociation being synthesized in dream form?
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Re: Constant Co-consciousness?? trying to understand it

Postby Una+ » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:09 pm

What Humptydumpty described at the start of this thread is typical rapid switching also known as revolving door crisis.

What Journalgirl is describing now is something else. It is sometimes called co-presence. This is a common transition phase while another alter comes to the surface. The symptom combination of increased depersonalization/derealization (DP/DR) plus somatic phenomena is typical. Expect these to be followed by an intrusive emotional state, followed gradually by flashbacks and eventually full contact with another alter. In each phase there will be a "signature" quality to the phenomena: a signature physical sensation, signature emotion, signature flashback imagery. The imagery can be visual, auditory, olfactory but the signature aspect will be in the content: a distinctive and specific recurring image.
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