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Cure for depression and anxiety

Postby Guest » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:55 am

I have been there myself. And i have felt the anxiety like my head would
explode. I had nowhere to hide from myself.
Recognice that?

The more we hate these feelings and try to stop them, the more anxiety we
will feed them with and they grow stronger. We can only beat darkness with
light, hate with love and so on.

We as humans are kind of trapped for a while inside this body. We are not
just this body. Think about your own thinking. It starts inside the brain?
Are YOU in control of how it starts? No one in the mainstream science knows
today. Since it is possible to have out of body experiences and dream while
conscious and notice that the body is sleeping, one can take it as proof
that we are something more. Because we are.

I believe that the best cure for depression or anxiety is to observe
ourselves. That is the real meditation Buddha practised - "self
observation". It is also the foundation for "dream yoga" or "psychic
sleeping" where our body is fully asleep but we are aware. It is hard to
understand when we are right in this mess. We think that we are what we feel
and think. And that we have no control of it. Of course we can decide how we
should feel. Is not that logical? We just have to know how. If you could
observe your depressed and anxious thought would you have more control?
Would you be able to separate yourself from those unpleasant feelings?

Yogis say that the above type of dream practise and conscious sleep is VERY
healing also. I still try to learn. Have had some out of body experiences
though. Just imagine being conscious in a dream. That really wakes us up so
to speak. We start to question if we are what we first thought and what is
"dream" and what is "reality".

Next time you feel anxious or depressed, don´t get caught inside that box of
emotions and thinking. Observe those thoughts and emotions like outside that
box. Just observe, let every emotion and thought in (don´t try to stop them)
but just observe them. Soon you will notice the difference by being cought
INSIDE these emotions and thoughts instead of being a spectator of them.

For those that say, ah that can´t work - #######4. Think again! But observe!
:0) Remember this is knowledge that is several 1000 years old.

You have the power to cure yourself.
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Postby jims » Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:48 pm

I'm not sure if I really understand what you are saying. However, I try to think in the way of Zen. I'm associated with Zen because I prtactice judo. Judo means the gentle way. That is the gentle way toward enlightement. Basically, we learn that events are not good nor bad, they simply are. By thinking we make things good and bad. Being thrown is not the end of the world. We learn to take being thrown to the mat as just an event. We just get right back up again. In time we transfer what we learn in the dojo to the rest of the world, setbacks on not the end of the world. We get up after difficulties and try again. Judo has taught me that I get out of life what I put in. If I do a lot of push-ups, I get stong. If I read a lot of books, I get smart. If I sit around and just complain that I am not strong, I get no where.

Many of my depressions come from my thinking. I think of how things turned out in the past and project another bad consequence. If I get an attitude of gratitude, I do not have depression. If I let go of my preconcieved opinions of how things should be, I am free of depression.

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Postby Taste_The_Pain » Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:15 am

sounds 2 complex
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Postby Paulienl » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:06 pm

I understand the mechanism of reviewing your own thoughts, but just observing did not made any difference for me. The big problem is changing the programming. If I notice I'm sad, the problematic thought has already taken place, even at a subconscious level and my Amygdala part of the brain has already pumped up my cortisol level. It's just so hard to find the off switch, if you have a tendency towards stress, gloomyness and negative thinking. It's a conctant battle.

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Postby Butterfly Faerie » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:23 pm

I don't know if i'd say there is a cure for either disorders.

Some people with anxiety can conquer it any therefore never be anxiety ridden again.

I've conquered my anxiety pretty much now. But I know there will always be something to start it up again eventually.

As for depression, some people will have depression and one day it will go away. With others it stays with them forever.

Which is likely the case for me.

Just got to deal with it the best you can and keep moving forward and live the life you want.
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That makes sense

Postby ccblue » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:55 pm

That makes sense....it is basically the same principle as cognitive behavior therapy...what I wanted to try and am trying to cure my depression. I am seeing someone and the thoughts that make you depressed stay that way because you don't really know you are having them...you don't recognize the thoughts that bring you down....it's an automatic mechanism...so the self observation is good but I say the therapist is neccessary to help guide a person in the right direction.
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