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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Yorkshirelass » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:55 pm

Etzel wrote:Yeah, if you also "read" Nietzsche and agree with him, you must.

I don't agree with him. His thoughts are just that, his thoughts not necessarily right.
He was a depressive. The Birth Of Tragedy, not a jolly read. I didn't get all the way through it.

Very clever though.

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This one in particular. My sister lied to me.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Etzel » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:22 pm

Nietzsche is the CURE to nihilism. You cannot pass as an authority on philosophy when you have merely read a few random quotes from him. The Birth of Tragedy was his first book and definitely not his most relevant. Start with The Gay Science, if you care about any of this.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Yorkshirelass » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:42 pm

Etzel wrote:Nietzsche is the CURE to nihilism. You cannot pass as an authority on philosophy when you have merely read a few random quotes from him. The Birth of Tragedy was his first book and definitely not his most relevant. Start with The Gay Science, if you care about any of this.

I'm not an authority, never said I was.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Otter » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:01 pm

I am well aquatinted Nietzsche's writing, and I am still a moron. Now scurry off to the ASPD forum Etzel, where you don't have to worry about hurting anyone's feelings. :mrgreen:
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:14 pm

My reason not to have pulled the trigger was my poor grandma I thern lived with discovering my body. Like you, I'm well-read and while I agree ultimately everything that is, isn't, and everything dies or ceases to exist, there's always ice cream. :) Just because ultimately everything's finite doesn't mean while we're here we can't have good times. We all die eventually, no need to rush that process along. Take advantage while you can. Eat, drink, be merry for tomorrow we die.
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I pretended to be." - Me.
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Re: Found the truth, no longer any incentive to live.

Postby Ressentiment » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:48 am

WhyDoIFeel wrote:I have found the truth of life.

After many times begging the question of the purpose of life, it has become clear to me that there is no objective purpose. With the help of Friedrich Nietzsche (I should have heeded his warning), I have realized nothing we do matters and one way or another, everything civilized man has ever done will go to naught.

I don't want to live anymore, but I won't end my life. That would traumatize my family and friends, and although I know the truth, I wouldn't want the burden of truth on their shoulders.

I am stuck in a perpetual laziness and sadness. Is there any cure?


First of all, you are probably misreading Nietzsche if you got that from the text.

Start here:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche/

Try to supplement reading the text with scholarly articles or other sources.

Second, one could argue that truth is pretty subjective. You should try to create your own meaning in life. There is no objective meaning to life, this is not depressing, this is liberating. You are free to construct your own meaning, your own truths. Take pleasure in your liberation.
"Do not ask who I am and do not ask me to remain the same: leave it to our bureaucrats and our police to see that our papers are in order.” Foucault

"There is in every madman a misunderstood genius...for whom delirium was the only solution to the strangulation that life had prepared for him." Artaud
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