How to conquer depression

Hope spammer1 wrote:If you think of this as propaganda it will never work for you it's that simple. Your beliefs influence you emotions and your control over them. Also this was never meant for someone like you. PTSD and depression are two very different things. However I still believe you can get better even if it's a small improvement.

The propaganda "stuff" was a "altered state of mind" thing-y, don't take it too seriously. I many not be able to control them (yet?), but I at least can see them once i"m out of them (usually).

As to the "not meant for someone like you (the PTSD reference)", I suffer clinical depression, both forms of anxiety, PTSD, aspergers, and some form of dissociation that only coming to this form has shown me even exists (I don't have the money for the psychiatric visits to do something about diagnosing that stuff). So... since I can't treat them all at once... one at a time it is, lol.

I know beliefs effect emotions, but that is where my... knowledge, control, and experience ends.

So let's start with the things you do believe in

What are you talking about here? Everything past this point made almost no sense to me, because I have no idea where it fits into "believe in".

Beatings
Step 1: Find something inexpensive but durable
Step 2: Beat the hell out of it
Step 3: Repeat as necessary

Tried this stuff before, and luridly does not work. Whenever I hit things it hurts and then I become angrier and angrier until I reach a point where I start having sharp pains in joints and stomach. And ummm... why would I willing beat something? Sorry, it hurts like hell for days afterwards, thus why I try like HELL to not do it anymore >_>

Pain
Start working out. Either lift weights or run constantly. You'll get that burning feeling in your muscles.

I am again not sure what "pain" refers to nor where working out comes into this. BTW, I can neither work out with weights nor jog/run anymore, so working out is not really an option at this point, for whatever this was in regards to.

Screaming
"The Going Crazy Technique
Generally, the above technique is one of the best relaxation tools available. But some people find that their anxiety is causing them too much energy to sit back and relax. They need to let out that energy, and they can do that with what I like to call the "Going Crazy" technique.

This is when you simply let everything out all at once. In a quiet place with no one around (since it can be sort of embarrassing if people see you), run around in a circle, flail your arms, scream and yell and do anything you want, no matter how crazy it is (as long as it's safe, of course). Throw a tantrum. Jump on your bed. Throw a pillow on the floor. Laugh hysterically. As the name implies, GO CRAZY. Whatever you want to do, do it. Let go of your sense of what's ridiculous for a while and let yourself go nuts until you've let it all out.

You should overkill it. Do it for a full 5 to 10 minutes (much longer than it sounds). When you feel like you've let it all out, keep letting it out. Don't stop until you've released so much of that pent up frustration, anxiety, and stress that you are left drained and satisfied.

Not everyone benefits from this type of technique, and you definitely want to make sure that you can do it in private. But those that feel like they simply need to let out their emotions may find this a better tool than simply relaxing."
source:http://www.calmclinic.com/anxiety/treatment/relaxation

Ummm, screaming in regards to what? I'm not sure what this... is... is for, why, what, nor when to do it. And since I do go into bouts where I scream, punch, and act like a fool for 30-60 min straight until I finally cool down enough to stop... I can say this does not help anything. I just get tired eventually and the mood/rage passes. I damned well do not feel better afterwards. I hurt, and usually not a little. Yet again, why I now control letting this happen.

I get the feeling you misunderstood what I was asking about >_>

So... all that said, and regardless of how much just answering here is making my chest hurt... how do you claim we control our thoughts and emotions?

How does what you have said apply to this question of mine?

When I said to beat something I meant a soft pillow or something not hurt yourself. What I suggested was merely help you release some of that anger. It will be very hard to control your emotions if you're full of anger. It's very important that you keep looking for an activity that will help you cope. If none of this works for you that's fine. Remember there are still millions of things you can try.

Hope spammer1 wrote:When I said to beat something I meant a soft pillow or something not hurt yourself. What I suggested was merely help you release some of that anger. It will be very hard to control your emotions if you're full of anger. It's very important that you keep looking for an activity that will help you cope. If none of this works for you that's fine. Remember there are still millions of things you can try.

Okay, what I had been fearing for years was an unhealthy addiction, has turned now into a coping mechanism thanks to a new social site I go based around it. Through my writing and it... OMG, I have learned so much. I even learned better about my learning disorder and how it works in real time! My severe memory issues (1 out of 20 on a psychiatric test) means that I often forget what i'm told as fast as I hear it. So, I have to hear it over and over and over and over agian. This is why it can take me hours to days for me to learn things. Heck it took me years to learn how to shuffle cards. A friend's gf sat with me day after day, just shuffling in front of me again and again (while she played cards too) and patiently taught me. Took months and I had tried for years before that, but only alone.

yeah, a new means of self-expression seems to be helping. Or i've just come far enough into my self treatment and research out here that now doing things shows me new things instead of just triggering despair and panic attacks. Here is hoping ^^