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When Cutting Spills Into Life: My Introduction

Postby dpeters911 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:17 pm

Hi, I'm new to the forum, so I should probably introduce myself. My name is David, I'm 21, I grew up in abusive family (sexually, physically).

I started cutting around the age of 10. It's been on and off, not really setting in as a habit till High School.

I was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder in 2004 and later re-diagnosed as Borderline Personality Disorder with Bipolar as a possible undercurrent.

I'm currently in the U.S. Marine Corps (employed, oddly enough).

Anyways, he it goes:

I use cutting as a both a means of control (over how much and how often I hurt) and of venting my emotions. I generally feel really guilty of even wanting control over my emotions and over cutting, leading me to be depressed and winding up where I began.

I don't know my triggers that well as I'm generally pushing away suicidal thoughts a few times a day and never bothered to think about specifics. When I'm around male father figures, I get uneasy. I don't hug men due to my father. I barely hug women.

I've always done better while in a relationship but I realize now that as long as I'm dealing with BPD and cutting, I'm not emotionally mature enough yet.

I realize some are perfectly capable of managing a relationship but I feel like I'd detract from a relationship given my condition.

Furthermore, I can't seek treatment without losing my job. I've teetered with turning myself in and admitting my psych. history to military doctors.

I've found that exercise isn't keeping my emotions regulated fully (and I do exercise - frequently running over 3 miles a day and work related exercise). A Healthy diet helps but only so much.

Anyways, I just wanted to introduce myself to the group and wanted to know how everyone else deals with things?

Am I crazy to try and seek help while overseas in the military?

(sorry my introduction is so bland, I wanted to summarize everything succinctly).
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Postby puma » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:45 pm

Hi, dpeters911,
Welcome to our forums.
I have just a few comments and questions for you.
Comments: Since you said you do better in a relationship, perhaps you should allow yourself to be in one. Struggling in isolation is not really necessary, and since you already have some insight on your problems, it seems being able to have the comfort of another in your life could only be good.
Questions:
Can you get off-base treatment in Japan? This would probably have to be a cash deal done on the q.t.,possibly using an alias so that nothing would get back to your Commanding Officer.
I can see where seeking help on-base could lead to problems, as you didn't disclose previous medical history and the military might not find that acceptable.
You are in a better position to find out what exactly the military policy about seeking help is than we are. You could perhaps seek treatment without disclosing your previous diagnoses in 2004. Can you present these questions to a marine doctor in a hypothetical format; i.e. "I have a buddy with...?"
Japan is a big, cosmopolitan nation. I think you should be able to get treatment there, at least alot easier than if you should wind up in the Middle East.
Anyone else here have any advice for our Marine friend, please share.
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Postby jasmin » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:08 pm

Hi, David! Welcome to the forum! I hope you can find help outside of the military, on your own. Maybe it's possible. I'm sorry your family were abusive. Many here might relate to your situation. You can talk to us here untill you find a way to get therapy and after.
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Postby dpeters911 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:28 am

puma wrote:Questions:
Can you get off-base treatment in Japan? This would probably have to be a cash deal done on the q.t.,possibly using an alias so that nothing would get back to your Commanding Officer.
I can see where seeking help on-base could lead to problems, as you didn't disclose previous medical history and the military might not find that acceptable.

You are in a better position to find out what exactly the military policy about seeking help is than we are. You could perhaps seek treatment without disclosing your previous diagnoses in 2004. Can you present these questions to a marine doctor in a hypothetical format; i.e. "I have a buddy with...?"

Japan is a big, cosmopolitan nation. I think you should be able to get treatment there, at least alot easier than if you should wind up in the Middle East.

Anyone else here have any advice for our Marine friend, please share.

*Off base treatment isn't available on Okinawa (it's a small 70 mi. island about two hundred miles away from main Japan).
*I tried an anonymous military hotline (used for help with everything from suicide to moving to tracking down a marine buddy, etc.). They said no off base options existed over here on island. I'd have to see a chaplain or medical staff (both would probably see cutting and my other suicidal behaviors are immediate threats rather than things that crop up every few months).

I kind of feel like a narcissist asking for help but understand it's probably because I grew up not wanting help from people.

Anyways, thank you for the support. I'll visit that website you sent, Puma.

[side note: I loved Kurt Vonnegut. Too bad he had to kick the bucker before I did]
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Postby puma » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:25 pm

dpeters911 wrote:I kind of feel like a narcissist asking for help but understand it's probably because I grew up not wanting help from people.

I can dig that, not wanting to ask for help. I am a stoic, independent sort myself, and find it very difficult to even admit when I need help, much less ask for it, and thereby show vulnerability.
Since your options to obtain help are so limited, I do hope you will continue to post in our forums. Having a voice, and being heard by like minded and empathetic souls, can go a long way in helping one navigate emotional pain and trauma.
It's not being narcissistic to ask for help. In fact, usually narcissists don't think they even need help. :lol:

dpeters911 wrote:[side note: I loved Kurt Vonnegut. Too bad he had to kick the bucker before I did]

The thing I valued the most about Kurt Vonnegut's writings is that he was able to look objectively at the human race in all its suffering and pointless cruelty, and also see the beauty in humanity.
Kurt Vonnegut wrote:
As for myself: I had come to the conclusion that there was nothing sacred about myself or about any human being, that we were all machines, doomed to collide and collide and collide. For want of anything better to do, we became fans of collisions. Sometimes I wrote well about collision, which meant I was a writing machine in good repair. Sometimes I wrote badly, which meant I was a writing machine in bad repair. I no more harbored sacredness than did a Pontiac, a mouse trap, or a South Bend Lathe.**

I did not expect Rabo Karabekian to rescue me. I had created him, and he was in my opinion a vain and weak and trashy man, no artist at all. But it is Rabo Karabekian who made me the serene Earthling which I am to this day.

Listen:

"What kind of man would turn his daughter into an outboard motor?" he said to Bonnie MacMahon.

Bonnie MacMahon blew up. This was the first time she had blown up since she had come to work in the cocktail lounge. Her voice became as unpleasant as the noise of a bandsaw cutting galvanized tin. It was loud, too. "Oh yeah?" she said. "Oh yeah?"

Everybody froze. Bunny Hoover stopped playing the piano. Nobody wanted to miss a word.

"You don't think much of Mary Alice Miller?" she said. "Well, we don't think much of your painting. I've seen better pictures done by a five-year-old."

Karabekian slid off his barstool so he could face all those enemies standing up. He certainly surprised me. I expected him to retreat in a hail of olives, maraschino cherries and lemon rinds. But he was majestic up there. "listen --" he said so calmly, "I have read the editorial against my painting in your wonderful newspaper. I have read every word of the hate mail you have been thoughtful enough to send to New York."

This embarrassed people some.

"The painting did not exist until I made it," Karabekian went on. "Now that it does exist, nothing would make me happier than to have it reproduced again and again, and vastly improved upon, by all the five-year-olds in town. I would love for your children to find pleasantly and playfully what it took me many angry years to find.

"I now give you my word of honor," he went on, " that the picture your city owns shows everything about life which truly matters, with nothing left out. It is a picture of the awareness of every animal. It is the immaterial core of every animal -- the 'I am' to which all messages are sent. It is all that is alive in any of us -- in a mouse, in a deer, in a cocktail waitress. It is unwavering and pure, no matter what preposterous adventure may befall us. A sacred picture of Saint Anthony alone is one vertical, unwavering band of light. If a cockroach were near him, or a cocktail waitress, the picture would show two such bands of light. Our awareness is all that is alive and maybe sacred in any of us. Everything else about us is dead machinery.

"I have just heard from this cocktail waitress here, this vertical band of light, a story about her husband and an idiot who was about to be executed at Shepherdstown. Very well -- let a five-year-old paint a sacred interpretation of that encounter. Let a five-year-old strip away the idiocy, the bars, the waiting electric chair, the uniform of the guard, the gun of the guard, the bones and the meat of the guard. What is that perfect picture which any five-year-old can paint? Two unwavering bands of light."

Ecstasy bloomed on the barbaric face of Rabo Karabekian. "Citizens of Midland City, I salute you," he said. "You have given a home to a masterpiece!"


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Postby Deadseason » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:51 am

brother you r in the right place.
Puma is the best of the best....as are marines, Semper Fi.
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Postby guttertrash » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:44 pm

hey there,

i think that you are doing a good thing seeking help on the boards. being overseas, espeically where you are is diffcult regardless of your mental situations. coming from a military family, marine corps, i can understand the diffcultly in loving your work, and being afraid of being discharged because of who you are. dont give up, the people here can help as much as possible, and as for being in Okinawa i wish you luck, it is a diffcult road to follow, and you should be proud to call yourself a marine. semper fi.
when life is taken in pain and suffering, is life really taken at all?
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