Can't You All Be Healed?

Isn't is a fact Bpd's can recover completely? How many of you think you will be able to say one say, "I was a Bpd" instead of "I'm a recovering BPD?".

I read stories of cured BPDs. Yes they were rare but the first step seemed to be them realizing and accepting they had BPD. So many do not even come to your progress here, knowing and admitting you have it.

Have you ever heard the AA philosophy: Once an alcoholic always an alcoholic? I don't believe that really because isn't that like saying, "once a smoker always a smoker?"

If you did get cured, is it remotely possible that you will behave even better than a non who never had the disorder, because you had to learn so much to become a non-things most nons never really needed to learn about how to treat people and how to handle their anxiety?

You'd think you guys will be even be better off in the end, IMO. You'll understand emotional abuse, triggers, and could be more equipped to handle relationships and personal problems that a typical non ever could.

Is this true? Could it be true? Not trying to offend the nons here but wondering if any of you BPD's think this is possible? I guess it is sort of like nons getting involved with a disordered pdi. We are forced to learn so many things other nons would never even see coming. The disorders give us powerful insight if and when we are encountered by them someway/somehow.

All opinions are welcome, and I wish quality of life to all of you.

Wow. Well done for having the courage to bring that up. For me, the BPD doesn't LET me believe I may be okay one day & I only have "emerging"! I read a statistic somewhere that said something like "after around 6 years of extensive treatment of meds & therapy, 60% of people tested have been 'cured' of their BPD"

My doctors say to me sometimes that when I'm better, I will have a wonderful personality that is empathetic with others and can get a long with people well. Although this annoys me and I shout at them "I'M NEVER GOING TO GET BETTER!" it is a nice thought that one day I will be 'normal'.

IMO, I can't seem to believe I will be okay one day. I have been not okay for such a long time (I was only diagnosed a few months a go but I have been receiving therapy for around 5yrs for suicidal tendencies and eating disorders)

Theoretically, it is true. We can be "cured" of BPD. But I think the analogy of a recovered alcoholic is spot on, especially in PD's. With alcoholics, if they avoid being around the drink, then they have an easier time staying on the wagon. Since BPD is a Personality Disorder, our booze is us and the world. We'd have to avoid everything, including ourselves, to be completely free of it. It's akin to asking a recovering alcoholic to go work and live in a distillery.

So yes, although we can technically be cured of it, I don't think we'll ever be able to honestly say, "I was BPD"; we'll always be recovering.

JohnnyBlaze wrote:Theoretically, it is true. We can be "cured" of BPD. But I think the analogy of a recovered alcoholic is spot on, especially in PD's. With alcoholics, if they avoid being around the drink, then they have an easier time staying on the wagon. Since BPD is a Personality Disorder, our booze is us and the world. We'd have to avoid everything, including ourselves, to be completely free of it. It's akin to asking a recovering alcoholic to go work and live in a distillery.

So yes, although we can technically be cured of it, I don't think we'll ever be able to honestly say, "I was BPD"; we'll always be recovering.

ye, i agree with johnny

Some days i even convince myself that i am cured...then something happens to completly change my mindset again..i never believe im cured for longer than a day at tops...

If you did get cured, is it remotely possible that you will behave even better than a non who never had the disorder, because you had to learn so much to become a non-things most nons never really needed to learn about how to treat people and how to handle their anxiety?

I actually believe that i do this without needing to be cured. Not all the time of course, but the way i treat people is quite often very important to me.

TadLock wrote:Isn't is a fact Bpd's can recover completely? How many of you think you will be able to say one say, "I was a Bpd" instead of "I'm a recovering BPD?".

I am quite sure that I will always have some "borderline" in me, but will have, over time, learned how to better manage my emotions and, hopefully, have shed some negative borderline traits & behaviors or, at least, avoid exhibiting these traits and/or behaviors to a significant degree.

I hope so. I am new to this world...admitting and accepting that I am not just sad, or I don't just have mood swings, but I have this. It has made me stronger, and more aware and better at coping (sometimes), but I am still scared all the time about it....especially about if my future kids will be affected by it.

Luv your post Tad


I think we defintely can be healed; but the process is LONG and you need to be brave enough to face the truth about yourself (whether you like it or not) your past (relationships, upbringing, patterns of behaviour/thought/emotion/triggering/etc...) and your more destinct trauma(s) in life.

You know yourself that PDs are an adaptive malformation of the mind, and as such we need to reach beyond the behaviours themselves into the deeper (and sometimes darker) regions of schematics.
Dealing with it on a congnative level can help manage the biproduct of disordered behaviours, replacement methods and better coping stratagies, etc.. But in order to penetrate deeply we must go deeper than the supperficial aspects, and into the very mechanisms which cause our reformation from 'normal'


I think one of the major things that keeps many people disordered is the pain of doing this.
People don't want to deal with the pain that truely mind altering, spiritlifting and self recognition/reformation entails because it hurts so badly.

I tend to think of this way, "It hurt going in (all the trauma and abuse which caused my maladaptation) so it's gonna hurt coming out too" (therapy, dealing with the raw emotions from those abuses and sufferings) and that's pretty logical...

Doesn't make 'easy' but it does help it make sense sometimes

Besides, I don't wanna end up all bat sh*t crazy for the rest of my life. I wanna live and enjoy the world in peace and harmony I wanna dance in the sun and not hurt people one day I wanna have a real life that is WORTH living and that's what I keep fighting for, each and every day

Great Post

i do hope so...

i just want to be as any other person with peace in mind (seems so much to ask)

i wish one day it'll be true

Disclaimer: I'm responding before reading any post other than the OP.

Some of the good things to come about for me b/c of this disorder ( I no longer meet diagnostic criteria, so I'm considered "recovered").
- Highly sensitive/intuitive (this can be developed very, very far with advanced meditation practices [buddhist])
- The positive emotions are as strong as the negative emotions, when I feel joy -- it's JOY JOY JOY JOY JOY JOY it's immediate, and very contagious, I've been told my smile could light up the universe.
- Being very in-tune with another person can allow depths of intimacy not even imagined by nons
- Being psychotic sometimes allows massive doses of creativity in my life ( I paint, draw and bake/decorate desserts better when I'm triggered because "I" am gone, just painting, drawing, desserting, decorating is left)
- Being more prone to mysticism gives me an "anything is possible" outlook on life. (this may not be exclusive to BPD, I was also dx'd Schizotypal)
- Being eccentric, "crazy", interesting, intense, at least for me has been more of a blessing than a curse, I never wanted to be normal anyway, I'm much more invested in being a me that I can live with and enjoy (another cool thing about not having an entrenched identity is that you get to make it up as you go!)
- You can be anyone you want to be at any time, like anything one moment, hate it the next, so you're always wondering what makes you like/hate things anyway, something very deep philosophically (to me anyway)


I have to go and will add to this later!

Okay I wanted to add a couple things.

Healing requires love, it's that simple. Where it comes from initially is not as important as where it will come from after it's all said and done. Something that comes to mind---we are taught how to love in life by ........ who? Parents? Usually? We are also taught how to be somebody by our families. This somebody may get along in the world and be successful, or a whole range of other possibilities like personality disorders (there is evidence supporting PDs developing from environment as well as genetic predisposition).

So what happens when we're not taught how to be somebody and how to love? It's a swirling mess of emotions, fragments of intentions, sporadically reinforced attempts at being normal, etc.

As much as nons learn from pwPDs, it is still night and day. There is a degree of understanding that is possible, but it only goes so far as you're willing to go in understanding yourself (and by proxy, the entire human condition!). PwBPD are like mirrors--Mirrors reflect, and not everyone likes the reflection---

HTH!! and hope I answered the topic, going back to read the rest of people's posts now.

One other thing, therapy is for creating and enforcing an ego that is suitable for society. Is this the best course of action? What about going beyond the superficial personality to the underlying causes, fix the root causes of "mental illness"... which is the fact that we human beings are living contrary to our true nature and this causes anxiety, depression, mental illness, homicide....

Beyond my wall of text lol

"I think one of the major things that keeps many people disordered is the pain of doing this.
People don't want to deal with the pain that truely mind altering, spiritlifting and self recognition/reformation entails because it hurts so badly."

^This is what everyone must face, it's the human condition, the reason spirituality exists.....

It is not just a metaphorical separation from divinity in life, it's LITERAL. Normal people are also disordered in that their thoughts are not aligned with right purpose all the time. (as in the altruistic, wholesome purpose of harmony (not ego-satisfaction, the world is rife with people just trying to please other people for power or whatever).