At what point does rage differentiate between 'normal thinki

If i ever speak to anyone about an argument ive had or something...where ive felt literally like im gonna explode, people always say, this is normal, everyone argues....

It doesnt feel normal to me at all which is why im asking this question....

At what point does rage differentiate between 'normal thinking people' and ''bpd thinking people'??

Im not really sure if im honest...maybe my anger IS normal....but it really doesnt feel like it is.

I think rage is different in that you literally feel out of control mentally and/or physically. I think it's "normal" to get "heated" in an argument but healthy people should be able to harness their emotions. By "healthy" I even mean people with BPD - we can learn skills to cope.

Tangled wrote:I think rage is different in that you literally feel out of control mentally and/or physically. I think it's "normal" to get "heated" in an argument but healthy people should be able to harness their emotions. By "healthy" I even mean people with BPD - we can learn skills to cope.

This is what i thought...i know that i am literally loosing it, it just makes me doubt myself when i cant explain how i feel inside my head properly and then people say, 'its normal'.

Nope, my rage is not normal. It's nowhere near normal. I don't know what or where normal is but I know that my rage is completely out of proportion to the issue at hand. I can get angry - angry's fine, but rage, oooh no that thar's the scary one.

Yes, that could be a way of differentiating between healthy anger, and unhealthy anger - or healthy ways of relating to anger and unhealthy ways.

(personally,)

My angerisn't unhealthy, and isn't necessarily uncontrollable. When i talk about "rage" personally, i'm not talking about normal anger at all, i'm talking about something else. While i have "anger issues" its not the sort of "anger issues" that need "anger management", its how i relate to the feelings involved in "rage". Whatever you want to dx it as, my rage isn't anger, its a way of feeling caused by a way of relating to the world and underlying psychological issues relating to hurt and anger that happened a long time ago that make me relate to my feelings in a bad way.

When it comes to "BPD rage" isn't it referring to getting triggered so you can't see things clearly, and strong feelings of anger and/or hurt that you can't control - just like getting triggered in any other way?

katana wrote:Yes, that could be a way of differentiating between healthy anger, and unhealthy anger - or healthy ways of relating to anger and unhealthy ways.

(personally,)

My angerisn't unhealthy, and isn't necessarily uncontrollable. When i talk about "rage" personally, i'm not talking about normal anger at all, i'm talking about something else. While i have "anger issues" its not the sort of "anger issues" that need "anger management", its how i relate to the feelings involved in "rage". Whatever you want to dx it as, my rage isn't anger, its a way of feeling caused by a way of relating to the world and underlying psychological issues relating to hurt and anger that happened a long time ago that make me relate to my feelings in a bad way.

When it comes to "BPD rage" isn't it referring to getting triggered so you can't see things clearly, and strong feelings of anger and/or hurt that you can't control - just like getting triggered in any other way?

Yes, thanks for that. I'm not particularly articulate when explaining concepts, but BPD rage is like you've described. Whether or not I can actually separate my BPD rage from a non BPD rage is another matter, I'm not sure if I can make a distinction tbh. Do I actually experience non BPD rage? What is rage like for a non BPD, I have no idea?

I think rage is rage. I have a PD but not BPD.

Body feels warm/hot. Facial expression and eyes will probably scare people. Prone to shouting/screaming in a way that will also scare people. Anger + Anxiety = Rage.

I remember a few of my rage episodes because the people around me and on the receiving end were definitely like "This s*** ain't normal."

I think the difference is in how it's triggered. For me, I had to have lots of things line up just right to trigger a rage episode. I don't know what triggers so I won't describe unless you want me to. But I mean: life situation in a bad place, using, in a situation that would frustrate nons, then one more thing goes wrong to push me over the edge.

I don't get angry very easily, but I fly into rages all the time. So yeah, in my experience there's a qualitative difference between anger and rage. It's not just a matter of intensity.

I like the idea of rage being anger + anxiety. I guess there is something of a panic in my rages. Perhaps it's because I'm experiencing emotional instability on two levels at the same time: I'm furious all of a sudden and at some meta-level there is the thought: where is this taking me? And these levels feed back into each other.

elusif wrote:I don't get angry very easily, but I fly into rages all the time. So yeah, in my experience there's a qualitative difference between anger and rage. It's not just a matter of intensity.

I like the idea of rage being anger + anxiety. I guess there is something of a panic in my rages. Perhaps it's because I'm experiencing emotional instability on two levels at the same time: I'm furious all of a sudden and at some meta-level there is the thought: where is this taking me? And these levels feed back into each other.

I feel like i can relate to this Elusif, thank you...i find that each time i seem to loose i worry where the next 'rage' is gonna take me...i worry that the control that i do seem to have is eventually gonna leave