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Which would apply to you if these became confirmed subtypes? Multiple selections allowed

Discouraged borderline
16
40%
Impulsive borderline
7
18%
Petulant borderline
7
18%
Self-destructive borderline
10
25%
 
Total votes : 40

Another silly poll

Postby matter » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:03 am

Ok, so there are not actual official subtypes but I thought this article was strangely interesting. It made me a little anxious though and I don't know exactly why, but that's why it caught my attention; just be warned it may trigger (just like anything else on these forums I would think)

http://www.examiner.com/mental-health-i ... orderlines

Discouraged borderline — including avoidant, depressive or dependent features
Impulsive borderline— including histrionic or antisocial features
Petulant borderline — including negativistic or passive aggressive features
Self-destructive borderline— including depressed or masochistic features


Characteristics of the Four Types of Borderline Personalities:

Type 1. The Discouraged Borderline:

Tearful and depressive episodes more frequent than rage episodes
Loss or abandonment can trigger micro-psychotic episodes
Self-Persecution
Aloneness
Paranoia
Delicate, easily injured
Victimized, evokes sympathy and concern
Cycle of depression and withdrawal
Anger can take others by surprise
Help-seeking/rejecting and so others may feel helpless
Passive and/or permissive
Irresponsible behavior
Other people have to take over
Suffers from chronic or recurrent illness
Somatic complaints
Uses drugs, alcohol, food, money, or sex to self soothe
Abandonment triggers suicidal feelings and desperate acts
More likely to deprive rather than indulge herself
Uses Fantasy to escape reality
Gives away or destroys good things
“I’m not good enough”- Self invalidation


Type 2. The Petulant (Angry) Borderline

Fearful and anxious
Inner experience is persecution, suffers from persecutory anxiety
Expects to lose what they need, consequently are possessive and controlling
Behavior is the result of feeling violated, "doesn’t want to be exposed"
Shuts others out
Possessive and controlling
Reclusive
Can be overprotective and insulate others
“Social phobics” / Social Anxiety Disorder
Ruminates
Looks for cause for own pain
Intensely Jealous
Is acutely perceptive
Heightened state of alarm, can be a consequence of PTSD
May be superstitious
Magical thinking
Intolerant to pain and illness
Inability to self soothe
Food, alcohol, sex to self soothe
Evokes guilt and anxiety in others
Suicidal tendencies evoke guilt and fear in therapists

Type 3. The Impulsive Borderline

Fear and terror projected on to others.
Those around must emotionally sacrifice
No ability to mentalize
Behaviors: lying, exploitativeness, promiscuity,verbal abuse, cold and withholding
Least likely to seek help/treatment on their own
Suicidal and homicidal tendencies seen in this type more so than others
Primary Emotion Expression is Rage
Hostility hides fear
Intrusive and violatesboundaries/limits of others
When emotionally-dysregulated, describes feeling“evil”
Gloomy
Easily agitated
Seductive
Potentially suicidal
Poor prognosis for treatment

Type 4. The Self-Destructive Borderline

Requires special privileges
Mirror hungry
Emptiness primary emotional statecomes from emotional deprivation and triggers anger.
Primarily feels deprivation and envy
Need to be mirrored
Attention is mandatory
Seeks attention or prominence
Demands loyalty
When there is a sense of betrayal,punishment will ensue
Hysterical reactions
Intrusive/violates boundaries
Rules do not apply
Numb the panic and contact andcontrol over some new object
Acquire and control self-object dyad
Inward-turning
High strung and moody
Ambitious
Suicide risk


Continue reading on Examiner.com Four types of borderlines - Philadelphia Mental Health | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/mental-health-i ... z1XEe900Xl
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby matter » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:34 am

In response to my own question, I classified myself as mainly the Discouraged and Self-Destructive. I have qualities of the others as well but narrowed it down to two. If I had to choose one i guess it would be Discouraged at this specific point in my life.

Just my way trying to promote some exploration and maybe even some enhanced understanding of ourselves and each other
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby bsl9408 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:28 am

hmm i appear to be all of them.. maybe the impulsive side has toned itself down a bit over the last year though
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby zausel » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:45 am

mostly Discouraged, with Pestulant in second

what is persecutory anxiety though...
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby Twistedmister » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:10 am

Self-destructive times 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000!


I'm not sure why there isn't a masochistic personality disorder......but if there were, i would have that.
I was all excited to see such a thing.........then i read, that they got rid of it. : (


So now, i just have to blame all my masochism on shame. Which isn't as handy, as say.......MPD.

-- Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:19 am --

Oh.....the list, leaves out all the ways in which i am self-destructive.

A pervasive pattern of self-defeating behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts. The person may often avoid or undermine pleasurable experiences, be drawn to situations or relationships in which he or she will suffer, and prevent others from helping him, as indicated by at least five of the following:

1.chooses people and situations that lead to disappointment, failure, or mistreatment even when better options are clearly available

2.rejects or renders ineffective the attempts of others to help him or her

3.following positive personal events (e.g., new achievement), responds with depression, guilt, or a behavior that produces pain (e.g., an accident)
4
.incites angry or rejecting responses from others and then feels hurt, defeated, or humiliated (e.g., makes fun of spouse in public, provoking an angry retort, then feels devastated)

5.rejects opportunities for pleasure, or is reluctant to acknowledge enjoying himself or herself (despite having adequate social skills and the capacity for pleasure)

6.fails to accomplish tasks crucial to his or her personal objectives despite demonstrated ability to do so, e.g., helps fellow students write papers, but is unable to write his or her own

7.is uninterested in or rejects people who consistently treat him or her well, e.g., is unattracted to caring sexual partners

8.engages in excessive self-sacrifice that is unsolicited by the intended recipients of the sacrifice




The weirdest one is the paper one...........i remember i used to help people do their math homework, but i failed math. I would help a person study for a test, they'd pass it........on my direct tutoring.......and i'd fail it. Spectacularly...
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby mooshoo » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:41 am

Discouraged and Petulant
I believe one writes because one has to create a world in which one can live. I could not live in any of the worlds offered to me —
I had to create a world of my own, like a climate, a country, an atmosphere in which I could breathe, reign, and recreate myself when destroyed by living.

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Re: Another silly poll

Postby Helle » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:44 pm

Discouraged and Self-destructive borderline, definitely.

With elements of the others too... But I'd say Discouraged is probably the prominent one...
I need some meaning I can memorize,
The kind I have always seems to slip my mind
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby AliceWonders » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:12 pm

Mainly impulsive; but with a lot of self destructive things underlying and/or fluxuating back forth between the impulsive at times too.
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby matter » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:09 pm

zausel wrote:mostly Discouraged, with Pestulant in second

what is persecutory anxiety though...


http://books.google.com/books?id=DaNerQ ... ty&f=false

apparently fear of annihilation by others, paranoia, defensiveness
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Re: Another silly poll

Postby ambivalence » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:18 pm

I would say Petulant, but there are a lot of other points within the other 3 that I really identify with as well. Implusive would be the one that is least like me, I would say.
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