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Can BPD people have alters?

Postby Rive » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:46 am

If so how would they differ from alters in Dissociative Identity Disorder?
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Re: Can BPD people have alters?

Postby RamadanSteve » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:58 am

People with BPD can struggle with sense of self and often have very complex personalities. I don't really "struggle" with my sense of self all that much personally but I am very chameleonic in a lot of ways. I can be loud in some situations, and shy and quiet in others. I can be euphoric or absolutely depressed. I can be bold and gutsy at times and a nervous wreck at others.I also like almost every type of music there is (at least some of each genre has something good) and have many different "types" of friends and love experiencing new cultures. A lot of people with BPD have trouble with their complex personalities because they think that society is forcing them into a box like they have to be a jock, a nerd, a goth, or whatever. Speaking for myself and others with BPD, it takes a long time to fully get to know each dimension of us. However, people with BPD generally such pronounced distortions of identity where different aspect of their personality take on their OWN identity. Such as one identity that has a different name, refers to themselves as separate, and may have completely different virtues as their "alters", to be fair I'm not an expert on DID but I have met a few people with it and it is very strange but interesting. I don;t mean to demean them at all but some of these people will all of a sudden start speaking in a different accent and calling referring to themselves with a different name, that's not generally a feature of BPD.
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Re: Can BPD people have alters?

Postby Rive » Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:28 am

Does this sound like BPD? I worked somewhere where I took care of animals. One day I was shutting a kittens cage door. It wouldnt shut and I was just trying to shut it. In my mind I was thinking its foot was in there but part of me didnt care. So I purposely slammed the door knowing that the kittens foot was in it and also not looking to try to justify it. Like this battle of good and evil was at play. I hurt the cats foot bad. Long story short everyone was curious how it had happened because I immediately felt bad (although part of me had intentionally done it) so I took it straight to a Vet that worked there and she checked it out and was like how did you not know. I just said I dont know or something of the sort. Then I remembered as well that I used to cry my eyes out when I we had to euthanize sick animals exspecially little kittens. I remember holding one for euthansia ( because that was one of my jobs whether I liked it or not)and just being so upset about this poor little runny nosed kitten being put to sleep. Then one time we had a Khaleesi virus outbreak during kitten season and all the kittens had to be put to sleep because of it. It was about 25 kittens. I volunteered to help because I was feeling evil and got excited about helping out with that at the time. Although at other times it made me upset. One time I also watched in excitement as my daughter almost got bit in face by a dog but part of me wouldnt want her to be hurt.
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Re: Can BPD people have alters?

Postby RamadanSteve » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:50 pm

I really can't say wether that's BPD or not, maybe you have some anti-social tendencies on occasion? It's hard to say but I personally couldn't hurt animals like that, when I start getting paid more I think I'm gonna go back to being a vegetarian at least most of the time ,it's just too damn expensive to get good meatless food that fills you up in the US of A in my opinion, I'm also lazy and lack willpower. Sorry for digressing a little, I think it's important to note that BPD is extremely broad and kind of a vague diagnosis anyway so maybe? I find that personalities vary pretty wildly in people with BPD although there are common threads I've noticed from other people with bpd.
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Re: Can BPD people have alters?

Postby Rive » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:06 pm

Yeah, thats why I was asking because I actually love animals very much. So to have this other part that would hurt them baffles me.
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Re: Can BPD people have alters?

Postby Snaga » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:02 am

Well, I seriously doubt I could get a Dx of BPD, although I think I have traits. Nor do I think I'm DID, but I do have alts- I'm thinking OSDD. *shrugs* I don't see what someone with BPD couldn't also have alters- although I did notice when reading elsewhere about OSDD, that there's some overlap in behaviours with BPD, so apparently a good bit of disassociation can go on within the PD.
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Re: Can BPD people have alters?

Postby Panda-chan » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:28 am

Yes, they can. As any other MI, it depends on the person: just because you have BPD doesn't mean you will also have DID. They might be co-morbid, yes, but it doesn't mean anything. I have them, yet I've met lots of other people in this forum that don't.
If your thoughts don't present individuality, a name, a voice, talk to you in a different voice or anything that makes them anything more than a thought, then I wouldn't classify them as an alter.
Regarding your other question, I'd say that more than being a BPD trait, those are intrusive thoughts of anti-social tendencies. You can spot some tendencies and classify them as "BPD traits", but there's not even one existant tendency you can single out and call "BPD" as an entire entity or thing.
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Re: Can BPD people have alters?

Postby Jebby0209 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:50 am

Rive wrote:Yeah, thats why I was asking because I actually love animals very much. So to have this other part that would hurt them baffles me.

I haven't been diagnosed with anything yet but I have BPD, NPD, HPD tendencies and also wondered about DID. I've done close to the same thing with my husband, I love him very deeply but have done a host of evil things to him that I don't remember thinking about or doing but there's evidence it was me that did them. He didn't see me do them but we were living at my parents house at the time it started and he started getting kicked in his sleep, his belongings had gunk and boogers on them and some other things. We didn't know who was doing it got cameras and everything. We finally got our own place and started happening here too, it's just him, me, and our 2yo. Then we started finding words etched in the floor help, his name, my name, and sex, and then pictures drawn on the wall and doors of me doing things with other men which we think actually happened because of other things we've seen. I don't remember doing any of these things but shortly after we moved to my parents I started acting strange and I don't know why. I'm not sure if it's an extreme of all the disorders I have or if it's actually DID as the other personality hasnt shown itself to my husband but I don't remember doing or thinking like that. It's been really hard because I'm on the verge of losing my family, I've lost my job. He has done a great job taking care of is during this time but it's very stressful and hard on him because he doesn't really believe I don't remember. I'm trying to find a free clinic of some sort, but my state sucks. Hopefully we can get answers soon and I hope you have found the help you need to learn about yourself and controlling your odd thoughts.
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