Women don't even want to be friends with me.

This is going to sound really strange.

So, i want to be friends with women, seeing how i don't have a chance for getting a girlfriend. I have no idea how to do this.

Let me be clear that i have no romantic intentions.

So what i am doing right now is "typical stuff that causes men to get friend-zoned". I mean i don't show sexual interest, i don't touch them overly, i just ask them out to get coffee or whatever. Nothing too exciting.
This of course leads to them not having romantic feelings for me whatsovever. But that is good. I mean, i want to get friend zoned.

But then they don't even want to be my friend. I mean, friends can hang out, can go with each other to bars, go to cinema together or simply do stuff together. But they don't want to. I have completely platonic intentions.

I am devastated that women don't want to be my friend. I have started to ask them why they won't even consider me a friend. But i get no answers. Next thing i will probably get blocked on WhatsApp. What a great day.

Are you truly looking for a friendship or do you just see it as 'the second best thing' until you figure out a way to seduce them/to meet someone else? Think there's a pretty big difference and women are quite skilled at spotting it.
Would you continue hanging out with these female friends once you found a girlfriend?

No i don't want to seduce them. Why would i want to sleep with a friend? That would be awkward.

I just thought if i try to be MrNiceGuy for a change women would actually want to be friends with me. At least they would not be repelled by me.

I would of course continue to hang out with them, but it could be that it becomes less. But that is not going to happen, because i am not going to find a girlfriend. I don't think you understand how unattractive i am. There is no way in hell any women would find me attractive.

Maybe they don't want to be friends with me because i am so unattractive?

I'm not sure what you mean by 'try to be MrNice Guy', pretending to be something you're not would be a dealbreaker to me, even for a friendship. I think you're underestimating the significance of staying true to yourself. Shapeshifting only to please is what would immediately repel me.
How do you measure attractiveness? I can only speak for myself here, but I wouldn't say appearance plays a role in friendships, humour, wit, morals, interests, ideas, taste in music does.
You're over-simplifying the issue by speaking of women in plural, there's no such thing as a generic approach to our specie that will guarantee you success, take one person at a time.
Blaming it on appearance is the easiest thing to do in today's world, but I doubt it's where the core of your issue lies. Think you should take some time to 'find yourself', as corny as it sounds. Once you do you won't have the need to shapeshift into others' idealized version of anything.

It is not my appearance only. I am ugly, yes. But i am also poor and have no education, no car, i am living off wellware right now, not to mention i am a bad person character-wise. I am also not funny and not interesting at all. I am working on many things so that i will be better off in the future, but right now my attractiveness is zero.

I have been true to myself before, but it made women run away very fast. So now what i am trying to do is not to repel them.

I am deliberately picking women for friendships that i am not attracted to. Then i ask them out - some say yes most say no - and then i ask them if we can be friends instead.

Then i get no response. This has happened several times.

I am an idiot. I cannot even go up to a woman and tell her "i want to be your friend". Now they think i am attracted to them and then they obviously don't want to be friends with me anymore because it would make things complicated.

I hate myself.

thejan wrote:It is not my appearance only. I am ugly, yes. But i am also poor and have no education, no car, i am living off wellware right now, not to mention i am a bad person character-wise. I am also not funny and not interesting at all. I am working on many things so that i will be better off in the future, but right now my attractiveness is zero.

I have been true to myself before, but it made women run away very fast. So now what i am trying to do is not to repel them.

I am deliberately picking women for friendships that i am not attracted to. Then i ask them out - some say yes most say no - and then i ask them if we can be friends instead.

Then i get no response. This has happened several times.

You’re really hard on yourself and it sounds like your confidence is really low. If that’s how you see yourself and talk to yourself that’s how people are going to see you. Be kind to yourself. Allow yourself some grace as you work on your self-esteem.

There are so many free resources online to help you better yourself. Take advantage of that!

As far as making friends, why women specifically?

Maybe instead of asking strangers out for coffee seek out organizations where you can connect with like minded people. Volunteer, take an exercise class, join the local camera club! Whatever it is, Do the things that bring you joy. It will help your self-esteem, allowing you to be your most authentic self. And, when you come from a place of authenticity people will recognize that. People will want to be around you regardless of what you look like or what your background is.