Difference between projection and devaluation?

Hi everyone,

Just trying to wrap my head around the difference between projection and devaluation.

Is projection a form of devaluation? When you're relationship enters the devaluation phase do you tend to see more projections than usual?

I know they are both defense mechanisms but I'm wandering if there are any other connections?

Any feedback would be appreaciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Projection is attributing things about oneself onto others, it's really in the name itself. This also is far more vast than devaluation I think, however devaluation can indeed be projection but projection certainly doesn't have to be devaluation. Projection occurs in more situations and is less caustic certainly. Projection is a more unconscious defense mechanism, there to protect ones own unsure /subconscious wishes or impulses, thereby preventing the anxieties, even guilt. I also would hypothesize this is more common in average people everywhere.
Personally I'm more aware of myself devaluing a certain associate, however projection is hard to see from within oneself, and has more range.
Devaluation is more cut and dry for me- people no longer serve their desired purpose so they fall off my scale of utility and can be easily forgotten. Also this occurs when people wrongfully accuse or attack me..
Too I think I don't often project, for i sense alienation from most citizens, but o surely do I mimic and fit in...

A lot of the defense mechanism works came from the freuds alike, and it may be humorous or true to say projection is to satisfy the ego and devaluation does that and also really satiated the Id!!!
blah blah I'm sipping the wine and I quickly thought this up, maybe it was a bit useful.

Yes there is a difference for myself, however within devaluation there may be projection.

Devaluation in my experience has been due to a feeling of being let down and neglected (I am usually the perfect boyfriend for a few weeks/months until I'm let down or realise I am putting more in) so it is based more upon hard facts... e.g. 'I can't believe you couldn't be there for me the one time I needed you, how much did I help you find a job/with your family issues/when you felt terrible last month!?' etc etc my lovely empathic side does a 180 to a vengeful daemon.

Within this there may be projection thrown in because the rage is on and it's emotional turmoil that could throw out all sorts of $#%^, I'm told in these situations the person I'm shouting at becomes a representation of the figures of abuse/neglect from the past also.

I am not sure, since I'm usually now aware of the fact that I project things on others. In my head projecting is something like a fact - so if I accuse somebody of sth, then I really think they're to blame.

I'd say the two processes are strongly linked (at least in my case). Because, as whathaveibecome wrote - devaluation starts with a feeling of being rejected/abandoned/attacked/criticized. Then to amplify this feeling inside me I start projection, what makes me actually believe that the other person is evil, so I devaluate even more.

whathaveibecome wrote:Yes there is a difference for myself, however within devaluation there may be projection.

Devaluation in my experience

Within this there may be projection thrown in because the rage is on and it's emotional turmoil that could throw out all sorts of $#%^, I'm told in these situations the person I'm shouting at becomes a representation of the figures of abuse/neglect from the past also.

Yes this was the strangest feeling. When he did the devaluation/ anger, I felt like I was like my abuser to him and he was like my abuser to me at that moment.
I know is difficult to understand but it was the strangest feeling! . Because he was acting like I repressed him and by doing it he was repressing me.
Not to mention I got disturbed because bpd choose on their own to repress themselves and then get mad that they did it.and resentfull. and I refuse to be like my abuser eww . So many confusing feelings.

I feel because of trauma you restrict yourself on your own. Because of fear and then you resent others because you did it.your parents made you do it and now you feel compelled to do it all the time. Without someone actually making you.??Me too probably in some extent.

Projection is more confusing to me to understand than devaluation.because I always had parents that maybe project and when I said you hurt me stop, they replied no you hurt me and I have no clue .I couldn't express my feelings. So is very confusing to me.Who is projecting from both.

julllia wrote:

whathaveibecome wrote:Yes there is a difference for myself, however within devaluation there may be projection.

Devaluation in my experience

Within this there may be projection thrown in because the rage is on and it's emotional turmoil that could throw out all sorts of $#%^, I'm told in these situations the person I'm shouting at becomes a representation of the figures of abuse/neglect from the past also.

Yes this was the strangest feeling. When he did the devaluation/ anger, I felt like I was like my abuser to him and he was like my abuser to me at that moment.
I know is difficult to understand but it was the strangest feeling! . Because he was acting like I repressed him and by doing it he was repressing me.
Not to mention I got disturbed because bpd choose on their own to repress themselves and then get mad that they did it.and resentfull. and I refuse to be like my abuser eww . So many confusing feelings.

I feel because of trauma you restrict yourself on your own. Because of fear and then you resent others because you did it.your parents made you do it and now you feel compelled to do it all the time. Without someone actually making you.??Me too probably in some extent.

Projection is more confusing to me to understand than devaluation.because I always had parents that maybe project and when I said you hurt me stop, they replied no you hurt me and I have no clue .I couldn't express my feelings. So is very confusing to me.Who is projecting from both.

What do you have? NPD or BPD?

I forgot to say. And I felt on one hand eewww I refuse to be my abuser so I must be understanding and empathized so I love you, but on the other hand you are like my abuser so ###$ you I hate you .Wanting to devalue/ anger etc. I think the self awareness makes it different.without it I would have different reaction.

Me?I haven't been diagnosed.I might just have trauma ,not a disorder,from family members. This is why I think I have something because I relate to these things.