Ever compare BPD to demonic possession ? *TW*

Yes, I actually seriously thought at times that I was possessed by a demon. That is exactly what it feels like. I don't find your post offensive because I know what you mean. Sometimes you just feel completely out of control and it feels like it's not you and someone else is in control of you. I actually gave it a name.

It feels like you have two personalities, one of them is normal, nice and caring aka the "good" personality and the other one is crazy, mean and heartless aka the "evil" personality. In reality it's more than two personalities but hey, those are really the only two you can recognize right off the bat. It only seems like demonic possession because it's pretty much the definition of it, apart from the extreme parts.

Just thought I'd let you know that you are not alone in this thought

I have always told my Dr's and therapists and counselers that there is two of me inside. They never really took me seriously i think on that one, but their opinion didnt matter to me because . I knew all they had to do was ask people who knew me and they would of known it was true. but demonic no. Just good and bad me

It's like 2 for the price of 1!!

thebetterhalf wrote:I have always told my Dr's and therapists and counselers that there is two of me inside. They never really took me seriously i think on that one, but their opinion didnt matter to me because . I knew all they had to do was ask people who knew me and they would of known it was true. but demonic no. Just good and bad me

Same here

AmorousDestruction wrote:

lilodian4ever wrote:Alright, I wish I could delete this post, but I don't think I can. Most moderators say (in their signatures) that "we don't delete posts", so I'm not sure if they can, either.

Sorry

Meh.

I've seen much more offensive posts written by non's but no one seemed to give a f*ck but me.

But you put the word "demon" in there and suddenly everyone's offended.

Don't feel bad, Lilodian. I understand where you were coming from. And I don't think there's anything wrong with expressing feeling like there's a demon trapped inside you. All of us have the feelings of helplessness and self-loathing that I think that comes from.

Thanks so much, Amorous ! This means a lot to me.

I've actually been crying quite a bit this evening because I offended some people. But, it's nice to know that I didn't offend everyone.

-- Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:21 pm --

AmorousDestruction wrote:I'm also not particularly partial to idea and I think it's mildly offensive. But I know you weren't trying to offend anyone and this is among us people with BPD people and not a non saying BPD people are demons or something. And I've seen you around enough and think you're a good guy. So it's fine.

Thanks, Amorous I don't hear the words "good guy" very often.

AmorousDestruction wrote:I don't believe in God so I don't believe in being saved or in possession. I believe in science and brain chemistry and research. If you've look into it enough, you'll find that our brains are different from nons'. It is partially an invalidating environment and partially genetics. There is a biological basis for BPD. This isn't often recognized because people like to blame those with axis II disorders for their suffering.

Yup, I agree with all of that. I have a synonym for invalidating environment - "identity suppression". I'm a man of science, too (computer engineer). And, I'm fascinated by science, and also the science that is particularly relevant to us with BPD. Our amygdalas are hyperactive and our pre-frontal cortexes are underactive. I agree that Axis II is harder to diagnose, so it's easy to think of Axis II folks as just being difficult or dramatic or whatever

AmorousDestruction wrote:I don't think we're going to be stuck on here complaining every day. I think that people do get better and that treatment can work. I think some of us need these boards when we're going through hard times. I don't think many people who have made a lot of progress with their BPD or are recovered really feel the need to come on here, so the perspectives represented are skewed.

Certainly hope so ! I also agree about the eating disorders and making the pain visible to others.

Cubby46 wrote:Yes, I actually seriously thought at times that I was possessed by a demon. That is exactly what it feels like. I don't find your post offensive because I know what you mean. Sometimes you just feel completely out of control and it feels like it's not you and someone else is in control of you. I actually gave it a name.

It feels like you have two personalities, one of them is normal, nice and caring aka the "good" personality and the other one is crazy, mean and heartless aka the "evil" personality. In reality it's more than two personalities but hey, those are really the only two you can recognize right off the bat. It only seems like demonic possession because it's pretty much the definition of it, apart from the extreme parts.

Just thought I'd let you know that you are not alone in this thought

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!! Thanks, Cubby46. I knew there had to be others who feel the same way about BPD.

You worded it very well, I think - "you just feel completely out of control and it feels like it's not you and someone else is in control of you".

Thanks for letting me (and some others I will not name) know !

-- Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:26 pm --

thebetterhalf wrote:I have always told my Dr's and therapists and counselers that there is two of me inside. They never really took me seriously i think on that one, but their opinion didnt matter to me because . I knew all they had to do was ask people who knew me and they would of known it was true. but demonic no. Just good and bad me

Fair enough ... good and bad.

-- Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:30 pm --

Stealing_Orchids wrote:

blank identity wrote:I'm just moody. Forget it. I've been pissy lately.

I just felt that the idea that BPD was akin to demonic possession was only stigmatizing further an already stigmatized disorder.

And it is a disorder, and one we developed in childhood to adapt to otherwise very hostile home environments.

I just found it offensive and didn't stop to think about what was being said.

So I'm sorry about that. It's kind of a touchy subject for me.

I agree with your post so much, especially the marked paragraph.
You were right with what you said before, and I don't think you had anything to apologize for.

I am a non-BPD and I think that comparing this disorder to possession is taking things too far, especially in a weird direction. I wish Jesus and God were the answer for everything, but they have yet to "cure" cancer and all these mental/ personality disorders.
This thread is not appropriate for a forum where sensitive people go and can get easily triggered.

*Edited by Moderator.*

Probably a lot of burned witches in the middle-ages were BPD.

Demonic possession is mental illness of any kind misinterpreted.

But BPDs have "evil" as a symptom. Others, not so often and distinctly.
So I get you.

But like mania can be hyperactivated "happy", w/e Bpd does is just derebral malformation, whacky hormones, etc.

I do believe many BPDs struggle with a duality of being: one sane, one frazy. Interesting phenomenon.

I'm not religious, so I can't say I believe in it in the religious sense
However I have thought of myself as a monster since childhood. Of course when I acted out I was called a monster by my mother. I still get the pleasure of being called a "Psycho" from time to time.
Though really I just feel fundimentally flawed more than anything.

our actions define what we are...

man throwing acid on woman who refused to marry him is demonic(bpd or non)
raping a woman is demonic
woman teaching a child by kicking him and beating him in the room is demonic
giving wrong medicine and not owning up to it is demonic
it doesnt matter whether these are nons or not or suffer with some other pd.

if tomorrow i go on killing spree, me having any pd, doesnt give me a reason to do that act.

i have had many violent thoughts on revenge, some have been gruesome, and i am aware that my anger is sometimes demonic and sadistic...but i try to restrict myself.

i agree that folks with any pd can appear dangerous to the outside world and this is ok for me. though i am much in control in my bpd now, i remember how unhealthy i was a year ago.

live and let live...

Heres a funny one for you. i was also born on holloween. People would always say it was because of the day i was born on . Any wonder i dont like to celebrate birthdays.