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Postby JustinB113 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:36 pm

The NHS and their information on Borderline is rubbish and is completely different from other literature. So tell me, does this get better over time or does it not? If the next 33 years are going to be the exact same then it just ain't worth it to be honest.
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Re: forever and ever?

Postby JustinB113 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:11 pm

Thanks archer, this is a good article. The NHS articles are very inconsistent with each other.

Borderline Personality Disorder usually manifests itself in early adulthood, but symptoms of it (e.g., self-harm) can be found in early adolescence. As individuals with BPD age, their symptoms and/or the severity of the illness usually diminish. Indeed, about 40-50% of borderline patients remit within two years and this rate rises to 85% by 10 years.

Improvements in social functioning proceed more slowly and less completely than do the symptom remissions. Only about 25% of the patients diagnosed with BPD eventually achieve relative stability through close relationships or successful work. Many more have lives that include only limited vocational success and become more avoidant of close relationships. While stabilization is common, and life satisfaction is usually improved, the persisting impairment of social role functioning of the patients is often disappointing.


So I have a good chance of not driving off a cliff, but not a very good chance of ending up with a good job and a happy relationship.

Yet my doctor is always so god damn optimistic.. it's sickening. This is unfair.
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Re: forever and ever?

Postby After The Fall » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:27 pm

Everyone that I have spoken to have said that BPD gets better with age as you become more mature and confident so you can cope better with things. They have said that it won't go away, however it will become more manageable. I hope it's true :)
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Re: forever and ever?

Postby noreally_imfine » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:38 pm

JustinB113 wrote:Thanks archer, this is a good article. The NHS articles are very inconsistent with each other.

Borderline Personality Disorder usually manifests itself in early adulthood, but symptoms of it (e.g., self-harm) can be found in early adolescence. As individuals with BPD age, their symptoms and/or the severity of the illness usually diminish. Indeed, about 40-50% of borderline patients remit within two years and this rate rises to 85% by 10 years.

Improvements in social functioning proceed more slowly and less completely than do the symptom remissions. Only about 25% of the patients diagnosed with BPD eventually achieve relative stability through close relationships or successful work. Many more have lives that include only limited vocational success and become more avoidant of close relationships. While stabilization is common, and life satisfaction is usually improved, the persisting impairment of social role functioning of the patients is often disappointing.


So I have a good chance of not driving off a cliff, but not a very good chance of ending up with a good job and a happy relationship.

Yet my doctor is always so god damn optimistic.. it's sickening. This is unfair.


Hey Justin,

after reading that paragraph, i also just had the same reaction. So.... basically, my chances of having a good healthy relationship and successful job are low.

That irritates the sh*t out of me. But at the same time, a voice in the back of my mind says eff that. I'm not going to let this thing rule my life. I'm just not going to. I can't let it dictate my life. i can't let research that psychologists or whoever post online make me "Accept" this info and know that that is my fate.
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Re: forever and ever?

Postby Rednal » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:43 am

Only about 25% of the patients diagnosed with BPD eventually achieve relative stability through close relationships or successful work. Many more have lives that include only limited vocational success and become more avoidant of close relationships.


This describes me with age. I rarely even try to make friends any longer to even get to the close friendship part. And jobs..... its been a few years since I've had one; thought I am applying.

This seems to resonate with me to what someone else was saying; however dark/sarcastic he/she was about it. I understood what they were meaning because I have come across information just like this... and also finding myself becoming a hermit.
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Re: forever and ever?

Postby jhp » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:37 pm

I don’t take such articles too seriously. They’re too vague and subjective - and a bit condescending. What is ‘relative stability’ - relative to whose standard? What does ‘many more’ mean?
We’re all so different. To hell with the statistics - you CAN have a career and someone to love. I’ve proved it, and I’m as borderline as it gets
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Re: forever and ever?

Postby noreally_imfine » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:49 pm

jhp wrote:I don’t take such articles too seriously. They’re too vague and subjective - and a bit condescending. What is ‘relative stability’ - relative to whose standard? What does ‘many more’ mean?
We’re all so different. To hell with the statistics - you CAN have a career and someone to love. I’ve proved it, and I’m as borderline as it gets



thank you for your post JHP. that gives me hope! :)
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Re: forever and ever?

Postby thebetterhalf » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:40 am

I think im better in some areas over the years, yet worse in others. Thats only if your thinking in the terms of what most normals behaviors are. But yes it gets easir.
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