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Postby dclem2 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:12 am

completely new here and no idea how to begin. feel like less of a man even doing this, but i'm already this low i can only go down.
yeah... bipolar. my diagnosis says 'severe' and they aren't kidding. it is severe because meds don't work, therapy doesn't work, the wards don't work. the last option they're suggesting is shock therapy or Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) to try and see some results. that's the worse thing they could do to it, as it can leave me brain damaged, memory loss, I fear doing that i will forget how to do art, i won't think twice of it. i don't see the force of making me stay alive other than the profit of medication to these 'dr.'s.'
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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby z7z » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:53 pm

I've heard it's great for treatment resistant cases. What is your experience with medications that didn't work?
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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby dclem2 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:01 am

i'm not about risk brain damage, no. i just said meds don't work, they did a fantastic job giving me filthy side effects. Ones i'd rather not have back.
but it's a cycle with your doctors, keep switch or increases does, crossing finger I tell them it works. no.
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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby Justddrown » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:17 am

Ect is good when you’re not responding to meds. I made a conscious decision to have ect 5+ years ago as a jumpstart for my brain/life. It somehow did its thing. It does affect memory so be warned. It won’t be much it’ll just be a little fizzy from that time period. Check your insurance, it costs about a quarter mill. Don’t make any changes to your meds during that time and make sure you stay stocked on what you need. Try to be more optimistic.
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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby JoseMaria » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:00 am

Everybody is crazy here!?
NO ECT NO!!!
ONLY WILL DESTROY YOUR BRAIN!!!
ECT is the Old Electroshock many people die with it and the survivers get idiot for life!
Why so severe is your "ilness"?
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Postby quietgirl2538 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:52 pm

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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby Wally58 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:28 pm

I find the Wikipedia to be a good, neutral source of information on this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy

When symptoms are 'treatment-resistant', ECT may be the last house on the block for those that medications and conventional therapy don't help.
There is a lot of mis-information and myths about ECT dangers. Modern ECT techniques are reasonably safe, they are voluntary and can be the only hope left for some afflicted individuals.

A quote from the wiki:
"The American Psychiatric Association—have concluded that there is no evidence that ECT causes structural brain damage.[9][17] A 1999 report by the U.S. Surgeon General states: "The fears that ECT causes gross structural brain pathology have not been supported by decades of methodologically sound research in both humans and animals."[47}".

Best of luck to you and to whatever you decide. :D
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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby Justddrown » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:40 am

It’s for when you aren’t responding to medications in my case and I’ll tell you I wouldn’t have what I have today. It’s scary I guess being under anesthesia paralyzed in a colma and all that. It’s not like jack Nicholson being strapped to a chair. It’s not even close to the same as in the past. Your hands and feet make little movement for a couple minutes. Wake up, maybe a little headache, don’t drive hit up a local diner.
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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby dclem2 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:45 am

anyone think ect is anyway safe to be administered. WOW.
I'd only do it now if it surely going to kill me. I'll even call it euthanasia vr. 2
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Re: new no idea and ect

Postby Wally58 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:09 am

If it wasn't deemed to be safe, it would not be offered as a treatment option.
The benefits may far outweigh the risks.
There are 'risks' in any chemical or electrical treatment as well as surgeries. These doctor teams are trained and certified professionals and know what they are doing.
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