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Postby UpDownAround » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:48 pm

I was reading an article on BP magazine's site and it talked about 3 states of BP instead of 2. The 3rd was remission. When I was diagnosed in 1994, what got me in was the almost unrelenting depression. I didn't realize at the time that the short "break" I got from the depression was hypomania. My wife sort of did; she didn't know that's what it was but it was a big part of going in because she disagreed about me being "better". Anyway, in the year before and the 23 years since the diagnosis I have ever had a day without the fog and always feel either depressed or hypomanic. Most common by a wide margin is slightly to moderately depressed.

Anyway, do most people have periods with no symptoms? Does the fog go away?
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Postby Holodeck » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:57 pm

I tend to have more highs than lows, but I wouldn't say I've never been completely normal for long. I had an odd number of stable days recently that lasted around a week, but I've been getting lil hypo bits here and there since my therapy Wednesday. Nothing too terrible though, which is nice.
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Postby Jellybeanery » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:08 pm

I get that. Since I was about 13 or so, I've always gotten horribly depressed. But I would snap out of it for a while and eventually get depressed again. I don't think I got a manic episode until I was about 25 (at least, as far as I can remember). I only recall having mania 3 times in my life and they were spaced out (25, 29, and 32 years old). So I mainly shifted between terrible depression and stable, with a mania every now and then. Now that I am properly medicated, I have been in "remission" for a little over a year.
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Postby UpDownAround » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:38 pm

I feel like I am getting ripped off - I was supposed to be getting vacation time all these years? It has been so long that I barely remember totally stable but I had no persistent head fog until my early 30s and had long spells of being clear headed without mania or depression. I had spells of both, but did not really recognize them as such, back into my teens. I have finally gone over a month without being depressed but the head fog hasn't lifted.

My pdoc thinks she can lift the fog. That has been about 25 years; it preceded my first really long depressive episode.
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Postby Jellybeanery » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:52 pm

In all honesty- I don't like it. It's sort of boring.

Now, my depression gets really bad and lasts a long time (up to 6 months), and I have been hospitalized for it 4 times because of self-harm and suicide attempts. So I don't want this back. But I have spent most of my life depressed, so it just feels strange not being depressed?? I miss my ups though. Maybe not my last manic episode. Maybe most of it though. I like the euphoria and generally, my mania isn't so bad. So I wish I would get manic, just so I can feel good. Because I mostly just feel "meh". I still get anxiety though, that hasn't gone away.

I dunno, I just don't feel like me being stable. It's a strange feeling. I'm in the process of getting off of my anti-psychotic though, so only time will tell if I get any moods back. I just hope that the Lamotrigine is strong enough to stave off my depression. Either way, I am done with AP's. Too many side effects.
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Postby UpDownAround » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:07 pm

It is easier to resist euphorics when I get some euphoria for free. When I was depressed, it was really hard not to drink or take prescription drugs when I had them to get some relief. My pattern was about 3-8 months of depression then around 5 days of hypomania. Wash, rinse, repeat and the next hing I know over 20 years have passed that way. Stable would be nice to try to get bored with for at least a few days.
I think I have other stuff going on that hasn't been diagnosed, especially with regard to how little I feel sometimes and some of my more disturbing thoughts. The me behind the inner most facade is probably "somewhere on the spectrum".
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Re: Remission?

Postby Jellybeanery » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:17 pm

Yeah, constant shifting moods with no break in between is no doubt tiresome. Some stability would seem nice.

I'm the opposite from you- when I'm depressed I lay off of the alcohol. I just stay in my bedroom and don't talk to anyone. When I'm stable I drink, and when I'm manic I drink even more. :lol: Although lately I haven't been wanting to drink much at all. Maybe 1 drink here and there. It gets gross after a while.
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Postby UpDownAround » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:57 pm

This slight hypo is sort of stable. I have some symptoms - racing thoughts, tripping over words, inappropriate comments - but not as bad as most short episodes. It's lasted several weeks and I haven't been immortal even once. ;) That is my recurring delusion. I don't think I have had any delusions (but maybe I am deluded to think that 8) ) and I have noticed when I am condescending, stopped an apologized. It is possible I have done it without realizing and stopping though. I edit posts substantially before clicking submit; missing letters/words and sometimes things are out of order but I am aware enough to do it. Long winded way of saying this level of hypo is pretty manageable and hopefully no harder on others than me being slightly depressed.
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Postby Jellybeanery » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:10 pm

Like I've said before, if it isn't causing any harm to yourself or others, I would just roll with it. I had a manic episode once where I was very productive- I started an exercise routine (at 6 am), I excelled at work (but declined the promotion), and bought a ton of stuff to revamp my bedroom. I hardly slept (maybe 4-5 hours a night), was extremely talkative, and the other typical symptoms, but it wasn't causing any harm. It was enjoyable. I wish I could always feel that way. But of course, I crashed. And I crashed hard.
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Re: Remission?

Postby quietgirl2538 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:44 am

I've felt depressed and on some days when I have mood swings, I feel slightly depressed. I feel part of me is just this melancholic type of personality nowadays. That would be me on my "mostly stable" days. When completely stable I just feel so good. And I'm not hypomanic. When I've recently been hypomanic, I've felt rushed and everything seemed to speed up. Hypersexual behavior intensifies and a lot of racing thoughts, but it does not reach mania. Then I have a few days of low mood. My crash is not bad at all compared to past depression. I really think it's the moods trying to go up or down, mostly down as in depression, but my meds keep me on track. I no longer have the "fog" you describe but on a bad day and when my mood swings are taking place, I feel some slight "fog" and I just let it pass (as it usually does) and then I'm ok. I hide out at home a lot. I just can't deal with much more than everyday stuff. My level of energy and/or moods don't allow for it. That's just how I am, is my belief.
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