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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby AcutelyUnaware » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:22 pm

Everyone in this chain of posts made very good points for all sides of this discussion. I would never want to take anything away from the thoughts and struggles we all go through daily.

My thing about this whole sad story of Robin Williams' life, struggle and death are this: people should care this way all the time about their loved ones and the people around them. The problem doesn't exist solely because a solitary individual that everyone knows and loves commits suicide. There are thousands upon thousands of people who try and succeed every day. There are those of us that do not succeed and are here to share our stories, which help others to be stronger and fight the good fight.

I, personally, feel alienated by this whole business. I can't share my opinion with friends because they'll know things I have never admitted to them (plus most of this is happening on social media and I sure don't need the world seeing it, I feel secure here but still). They share these wild opinions and throw out words like "selfish" and "coward" and it makes me angry. They don't understand so they draw conclusions, which insults us all. I view it so differently that I cannot contribute to the conversation, instead I question whether these people are friend material any longer. This is all my perspective.

I feel that we need to do our best to let it roll off our shoulders and celebrate his life, I have to believe that to keep sane. Let the rest of the world make their accusations and assumptions and ignore the ignorance. We understand and we are still here, let's make the best of it while we can. Rant over.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby quietgirl2538 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:05 pm

Goes back to stating that those who suffer the most with debilitating depression know for a fact the crippling effect of depression and what it can lead you to do, which is to take your life to find some relief. At least that was what I saw it as. It was only by luck that I didn't succeed in the act. And I know who not to tell when it comes to knowing those ignorant of this. I know what they will try to reason with, with a bunch of garbage when they know nothing about what it is to be suicidal. Maybe if they got a little taste of what it is to go through that they would keep their mouths shut!
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby neptunerising » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:07 am

Robin Williams' suicide hit me extremely hard and not for the obvious..(He was an amazing actor. I grew up on him..)

His suicide hit me hard because reading the stories about it in the news made me think of my own self and those like me..

I, too, get annoyed and unbelievably irritated when people talk about suicide this and suicide that like they know what it's like.

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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby itsabipolarlife » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:40 pm

Yes of course his family and everyone who loves and cares for him are going to be devastated beyond belief, I would never want my family to feel that BUT with saying that as someone who saw the side of suicide where everything just felt calm and I was ready to go , I dont think I would every be angry at someone I knew or loved comitting the act. It is their life and if they felt like they couldnt do it anymore I have to understand that .The pit gets so deep and dark. Robin Williams was bi polar and obviously was in a cycle where there was just no way out for him . No matter how many " i love yous " and " it will all get better soon" you hears, nothing can change that for you. I think if the rest of the world saw we what see they would be a little bit more compassionate for this man.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby sixprime » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:08 pm

What's amazing is that the media is exclusively reporting on his depression, with no mention whatsoever about bipolar disorder. Check out this article:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/robin-wil ... -1.2734500

The author literally uses the word manic three times to describe Williams' comic style without putting two and two together that there might be something more than simple depression at work!

The mind boggles. Boggle boggle boggle it goes.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby thebetterhalf » Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:34 pm

Such a loss of a good actor and comedian.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby Oliveira » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:13 pm

I think most media just got used to "depression" being code word for any mental problem. I read quite a few times recently about a celebrity going to rehab for depression. Surely if you're depressed you go to a hospital. Possibly that celeb went to rehab due to dual diagnosis, but that's too complicated for mainstream media already.

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Postby poosie » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:35 pm

I am in a depressed mood and have been trying to let others know so they can keep an eye out. I thought Robin Williams suicide would be a conversation starter but have been surprised by the number of friends and relatives who seem to have the attitude that all these famous people are bi polar and they get stuff done, why can't you?

I would like to think that Robin Williams would want to have bi polar disorders more the focus.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby bailey2014 » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:51 pm

I don't have adequate words for how sad I am to know Robin Williams is gone. He was, imo, a genius, brilliant, improvisational comedian and serious actor. I got his humor, and although I have BP disorder, was able to keep up with most of his off the wall, quick witted statements. I read that he was a great humanitarian, gentle and kind. He will be sorely missed.

One article I read online was one from an interview with Carrie Fisher on Robin Williams. He came to one of her shows, and afterwards she gave out forms with questions on symptoms of BP disorder in which he got almost all of them correct as having this disorder. However he told her he did not think it applied to him. ???? I don't know how long ago that was but I wonder if people who are addicts think that drugs or alcohol is their main problem. I think later on he discovered he was deeply depressed. I have read his name on a list of famous people with BP disorder. I don't know anywhere where he talks about manic depression, but only the depressive part. As genius as he was, and as intelligent, it seems a Dr would have discussed this with him.

We need to keep in mind there is still, or has been in recent past years, a stigma attached to having bipolar disorder. It is now just coming to light in my lifetime (I am 56) and my children seem to understand it.

One question in my mind which has bothered me from the time I heard the news is why he and his wife slept in different bedrooms. Maybe he was a night owl and enjoyed watching t.v. till wee hours of the night, but they have only been married since 2011. I don't know, but it seems odd to me unless he had a great snoring or sleep apnea problem. I wonder how supportive she was of him, but no one knows except the two of them. He had been working all of these years, went through open heart surgery which takes a toll on people and can bring on depression, but that was I think in 2008. So, I think there is more to the situation that caused him to plummet down into the depths of depression to the point of taking his own life. I do wonder if he had alcohol or drugs in his system the night he took his life. Toxicology reports will be revealed in about 5 or 6 weeks.

He gave of himself to others. He kept his demons quiet, and suppressed the things that caused him such grief. I am so terribly sad this has happened to him or anyone that has taken their own life. I have thought about suicide several times, but have never considered it to a point of planning it out. I'm mostly on the manic side, but irritable, agitated, and go into rages at times especially if I am stressed out or am having family problems. My problem is worrying about hurting someone else. I pray I never do.
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Re: Robin Williams suicide, people chiming in

Postby sixprime » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:17 pm

The thing is, I get exactly like Robin Williams when I'm hypo. The speediness of his delivery and improvisational abilities are just so characteristic. Same with Jim Carrey.
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