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Homicidal ideation while manic

Postby snailpet » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:56 am

When I'm manic, I'll have increased energy and increased creativity, be more exuberant and outgoing, and I'll sleep less ... but I'll also be more irritable and get angry easily. Sometimes I'm so angry I'll start experiencing homicidal ideation and think of killing other people. These people are usually the ones I'm the most angry at, and I know these thoughts are unrealistic and wrong, but I just can't get rid of them. I've even come up with entire plans, but never went through with any of them.

When I'm not manic, though, I don't have them.

I read once that homicidal ideation can occur in the manic and mixed episodes of bipolar disorder. But I have no idea how common it actually is.
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Re: Homicidal ideation while manic

Postby sixprime » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:14 am

I think that every human being on Earth has had some kind of homicidal ideation at one point in their lives. It's just part of the human condition.

On mixed episodes, I get all kinds of intrusive murderous thoughts like that, but I don't act on them.

Don't beat yourself up about what's going on in your head -- reserve that for actions.
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Re: Homicidal ideation while manic

Postby CrackedGirl » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:37 am

Things like this do cross my mind occasionally when I am irritated or agitated with a mood state. I have not made any detailed plans but I have thought about it in passing. I think given you are makin plans that it would be a good idea to discuss this with your psych as that seems to imply these are quite significant thoughts for you. I think reassure them you otherwise do not think like this and you have not and are not going to act on them but I think they probably should know. it is a difficult one tho as it is not ideal to admit to your dr you are having thoughts like this. But on the flip side this sounds quite serious and they probably need to know

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Re: Homicidal ideation while manic

Postby invicta » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:33 pm

I get that a lot! I'm impatient by nature, so when mixed with mania, it's a very explosive combination. I sometimes fantasise about what I would like to do to all those idiots around me. They're not really idiots, of course, it's just me. But I know they are only fantasies, there's no chance I'd act on any of that. It's much more likely that I'll hurt myself.

I think that if you feel you are likely to act on these you should really tell your doctor. But don't forget that everyone, with and without MI, sometimes have these sorts of fantasies, so give yourself a break.

Do you have any strategies you use when you're like that? Things you can do to calm you down, or at least make things a bit less extreme? Such as exercise, meditating, etc.?
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Re: Homicidal ideation while manic

Postby Semi-Interesting » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:17 pm

Some medications are thought to provoke homicidal ideation in some people...think prozac might be one of them.
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Re: Homicidal ideation while manic

Postby Nihilist » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:09 pm

I definitely develop homicidal feelings when irritated/agitated. It happens both when I'm hypomanic and sometimes when I'm depressed as well.

My current med regimen helps keep this all to a minimum though of late.
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