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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby DoNotWant99 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:03 am

I have problems like this in school. In English we're always asked after reading a story, "How did blah[i] feel about [i]bleah?" I can never answer these because I have the hardest time conjuring up enough energy to care about whomever we happen to be reading about that day. And when my parents ask me how my day was it's impossible to answer because knowing how my day was requires knowing how I felt, and it's really taxing trying to keep up with emotion, much less remember it. I'll also be sitting at my desk during study hall staring at my homework thinking, "I should really get this done," but not being able to because I just don't care. Or I could be some whiny, lazy teenager. I tend to think that a lot.
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby DancingPuppets » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:16 am

I decided to at least get out from home once a day and its working. On Monday I went to a friend s house, Tuesday I went to the supermarket and today I went to visit a friend because I had forgotten her birthday (big horror!). Tomorrow I plan going shopping for clothes and on Friday I have to go to the doctor. Also on Monday I bought a ticket for the theater, I hope it's not too awkward going alone!
I'm going to try not to be avoidant this weekend if a friend invites me to a disco or something but I'm not sure I can make it, maybe if tomorrow I find an outfit that doesn't make me look like an ugly monster :roll:
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby nomorebollocks » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:33 pm

MeMyselfAndI1 wrote:
nomorebollocks wrote:I'm a lazy cucking funt and proud to be so. 'Laziness' so-called, is a form of rebellion against a corporate dominated society that would have everyone conform to their values, and their definition of what it means to be a human being. ###$ that. My awkwardness with people. my self-consciousness, and social ineptitude, my refusal to accept their version of what it means to be a 'normal' person, are all small but significant repudiations of their right to tell me how I should be. ###$ the so-called work ethic. Who profits most from our belief in that bollocks. I'm lazy and proud to be so if it means denying the corporate bastards one extra dollar to enhance their profits. ###$ them.


Wow you sound exactly like I did 1 year ago. I sort of miss those days, being so anti-corporate and rebellious filled a huge hole in my life and made me feel a lot better than normal.


So for you being anti-corporate and rebellious is just form of personal therapy that makes you feel better about yourself. Well good luck to you mate. Given your user-name that attitude doesn't really surprise me. For many people, including myself, being anti-corporate and rebellious is the only possible choice in a world that is threatened by ecological destruction and societal chaos, because of the actions of big corporations. If it makes you feel more 'normal' not to have these attitudes so be it. But don't tell me that my political opinions are just some manifestation of my personality problems you pathetic prick.
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby arbitrage » Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:56 pm

Wow...
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby MeMyselfAndI1 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:50 pm

nomorebollocks wrote:
MeMyselfAndI1 wrote:
nomorebollocks wrote:I'm a lazy cucking funt and proud to be so. 'Laziness' so-called, is a form of rebellion against a corporate dominated society that would have everyone conform to their values, and their definition of what it means to be a human being. ###$ that. My awkwardness with people. my self-consciousness, and social ineptitude, my refusal to accept their version of what it means to be a 'normal' person, are all small but significant repudiations of their right to tell me how I should be. ###$ the so-called work ethic. Who profits most from our belief in that bollocks. I'm lazy and proud to be so if it means denying the corporate bastards one extra dollar to enhance their profits. ###$ them.


Wow you sound exactly like I did 1 year ago. I sort of miss those days, being so anti-corporate and rebellious filled a huge hole in my life and made me feel a lot better than normal.


So for you being anti-corporate and rebellious is just form of personal therapy that makes you feel better about yourself. Well good luck to you mate. Given your user-name that attitude doesn't really surprise me. For many people, including myself, being anti-corporate and rebellious is the only possible choice in a world that is threatened by ecological destruction and societal chaos, because of the actions of big corporations. If it makes you feel more 'normal' not to have these attitudes so be it. But don't tell me that my political opinions are just some manifestation of my personality problems you pathetic prick.


Sorry, I think I worded that all wrong... It sounds like I was being degrading. I have a hard time trying to get my point across sometimes.

I meant that I legitimately miss those days, nowadays my motivation is so low I can't even get myself to worry about the state the worlds in. I just stopped caring altogether. I agree with your views, corporations only care about money and will literally stop at nothing to make people consume their products, it's stupid. I guess I realized that I don't have much control over anything they do, even if I were to burn a bunch of local fast food places, it would be pointless. The money it would cost them would barely be pocket change to them. Maybe I give up too easily, I dunno. I just feel that being rebellious will only make my life harder, and I can't handle that right now.
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby blankslate » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:55 pm

MeMyselfAndI1 wrote:
I can't even get myself to worry about the state the worlds in. I just stopped caring altogether. I agree with your views, corporations only care about money and will literally stop at nothing to make people consume their products, it's stupid. I guess I realized that I don't have much control over anything they do, even if I were to burn a bunch of local fast food places, it would be pointless.


I think that's a great point MMI. IMO the anti-corporate attitude is stubborn and defeatist. The people actually doing something about the problems of capitalism work within the capitalist system to bring about change. There are all sorts of non profits that work on behalf of the people who have been left out of the market. They don't just talk theory, they actually help real people in need.

The people who burn down fast food restaurants are only hurting our 'cause' (I don't even think they look deep enough to see the real problems at work) by reducing the credibility of people working for real change- b/c these ppl only stir up emotions and create gridlock. They are fuel for the fox news BS machine (shows like the O'Reily factor).

Occupy wall street has done a fantastic job of shifting the anti corporate movement in a positive direction- they are actually working w/ the system for practical change.
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby nomorebollocks » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:10 pm

Please explain how the occupy movement works 'within' the system. It patently does not. That is the point. Occupy is precisely intended to work outside the 'system' because the so-called democratic system that exists in the the US is non existant. Occupy is about ordinary people dismissing the 'system' and saying We want change in this utterly undemocratic country. People like yourself just perpetuate existing problems by pretending to yourself, and no doubt others, that the problems of your country can be dealt with through voting in elections. What a ######6 joke. The people who went out and joined the occupy movement were under no illusions as to who rules, and who benefits from that rule in your country. Burning down whatever is not the answer but getting out and protesting against the ruthless, war mongering bastards that control US society is at least a step in the right direction, not sitting on your arse and telling yourself; 'We have to work within the system.' Bollocks!
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby brainslug » Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:07 pm

There is a theory that some cases of AvPD could at least partially result from low dopamine levels.

That could explain the low motivation/laziness and lack of "willpower" to overcome obstacles. It would also do quite a bit to explain low confidence.

In that case, something like Parnate may be helpful, but I don't think that doctors really prescribe that too much anymore. Amphetamines could help, but that isn't really a long term solution, and I highly doubt that a doctor would give an anxious person a stimulant. Plus, we really shouldn't do anything that is addictive since AvPD is correlated with extremely high addiction rates, so I am not advocating that anyone go and do any illegal stimulants.

Any "lazy" AvPDer here ever done any stimulants (or Parnate), and did it worsen or improve your laziness and Avoidance? I am wondering if it would increase the paranoia aspect or if it would actually make us more open.
Definite social anxiety, at least a few prominent avoidant-schizoid traits. Plus other general confusion and strangeness.
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Re: Laziness and AvPD

Postby nomorebollocks » Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:46 pm

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