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Does this sound like AvPD?

Postby CelticsPrincess » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:24 am

I originally had this in the schizoid forums, but someone said that it sounded more like avoidant personality, so I was wondering what you all thought?

Ok so I have known this guy on and off for about 4 years. Lately we have been seeing "more" of each other, if you could call it that. He gets SLIGHTLY closer to me, backs off, runs away and hides. Then anywhere from a few weeks to a month or two later, I hear from him again. Then the cycle repeats. I thought he was just acting like a jerk, but he's geninuely a decent person when he's not ignoring my texts and phone calls. Plus, a few times, when he was really drunk, he opened up, was affectionate, and told me personal things. When he's sober, he's usually just somewhat quiet and awkward or telling some random story. I've noticed he's also very passive-aggressive. Also, whenever I hug him, he always says "Oh my God" and smiles. I ask him what he means and he says "nothing." ???

Well one day I decided to tell him I had feelings for him. He said he was "awe-struck" but he didn't know what to say. About a week or so later I finally heard from him and he said that he "doesn't have time for a relationship." However, after that we were getting closer than ever. Then he went M.I.A. again.

I got frustrated this time and finally asked him why he acts the way he acts. He said he would think of a response, but he never answered me. A few days passed and he still hadn't answered me, so I texted him that I was "done" with him. Stil nothing. A few days after that I apologized to him, saying that I was just feeling frustrated and didn't mean it. Again, he said nothing. I'm very confused by all this. At times he seems to be into me, at times it seems like he forgets I exist. I really am feeling something for him and would like to be able to straighten things out. Any thoughts?
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Re: Does this sound like AvPD?

Postby Mr._Avoider » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:53 am

Does this sound familiar:
AvPD subtype
(copy from another forum)
THE CONFLICTED AVOIDANT
A defining feature of avoidant personality disorder is the conflict of longing for intimacy
versus the fear of vulnerability that naturally ensues in a close relationship with another.
In a similar manner, those with a negativistic personality (formerly referred to as “passive-aggressive”) are basically ambivalent about themselves and others. They ideal-
ize their close friends and companions, but should their sense of autonomy be threat-
ened, they seek to undermine or humiliate them. What we are terming the conflicted
avoidant is an avoidant pattern that combines features of the negativistic personality.
Here, we may expect to see basic withdrawal tendencies of the avoidant pattern but ex-
pressed in a manner akin to the negativist’s penchant for “interpersonal guerilla warfare.”
If not withdrawn into isolation, conflicted avoidants may be experienced as petulant
and sulking. They may attack others for failing to recognize their needs for affection,
but accuse those who offer nurturance of seeking to compromise their independence.
Disposed to anticipate disappointments and fearful of facing others openly, they may
strike out indirectly by obstructing their actions and misrepresenting their wishes. They
often report feeling misunderstood, unappreciated, and demeaned, and their mood is
generally much more erratic than in the basic avoidant pattern. During periods when
stresses are minimal, they may deny past resentments and portray an image of general
contentment. Under slight pressures, however, their pacific surface quickly gives way to
impulsive hostility. Unable to orient emotions and thoughts logically, they may at times
become lost in personal irrelevancies and autistic asides, further alienating them from
others. Relating to such individuals, undoubtedly, is an arduous process, requiring far
more patience than most people are likely to offer. This interpersonal strategy, as you can see, fulfills the avoidant’s circular struggle; it vilifies others and discourages their
closeness (keeping them safe from harm), yet ensures the avoidant’s unwanted isolation.
F07.9 Unspecified personality and behavioral disorder due to known physiological condition
Featuring: AvPD and SPD symptoms (under schizotypy umbrella).
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Re: Does this sound like AvPD?

Postby tlepS drawkcaB » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:17 pm

If he is he may just be second guessing everything he is doing with you. He wants to be close but he doesnt know how to go about it.

Does he spend time with other people or other friends when his not with you? I know people wear me out and I need a fair bit of alone time away from everyone. This could be the case with him.
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Re: Does this sound like AvPD?

Postby EarlyMorning » Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:51 pm

Mr._Avoider wrote:Does this sound familiar:
AvPD subtype
(copy from another forum)
THE CONFLICTED AVOIDANT
A defining feature of avoidant personality disorder is the conflict of longing for intimacy
versus the fear of vulnerability that naturally ensues in a close relationship with another.
In a similar manner, those with a negativistic personality (formerly referred to as “passive-aggressive”) are basically ambivalent about themselves and others. They ideal-
ize their close friends and companions, but should their sense of autonomy be threat-
ened, they seek to undermine or humiliate them. What we are terming the conflicted
avoidant is an avoidant pattern that combines features of the negativistic personality.
Here, we may expect to see basic withdrawal tendencies of the avoidant pattern but ex-
pressed in a manner akin to the negativist’s penchant for “interpersonal guerilla warfare.”
If not withdrawn into isolation, conflicted avoidants may be experienced as petulant
and sulking. They may attack others for failing to recognize their needs for affection,
but accuse those who offer nurturance of seeking to compromise their independence.
Disposed to anticipate disappointments and fearful of facing others openly, they may
strike out indirectly by obstructing their actions and misrepresenting their wishes. They
often report feeling misunderstood, unappreciated, and demeaned, and their mood is
generally much more erratic than in the basic avoidant pattern. During periods when
stresses are minimal, they may deny past resentments and portray an image of general
contentment. Under slight pressures, however, their pacific surface quickly gives way to
impulsive hostility. Unable to orient emotions and thoughts logically, they may at times
become lost in personal irrelevancies and autistic asides, further alienating them from
others. Relating to such individuals, undoubtedly, is an arduous process, requiring far
more patience than most people are likely to offer. This interpersonal strategy, as you can see, fulfills the avoidant’s circular struggle; it vilifies others and discourages their
closeness (keeping them safe from harm), yet ensures the avoidant’s unwanted isolation.


This so far sounds like my ex in regards to him pulling away. Though a smaller part of his personality. Is it possible to have, or to have traits of more than one PD? I believe from what I've read that my ex has AsPD with alot of traits of NPD, a bit of HPD and some AvPD. Is that possible?!
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Re: Does this sound like AvPD?

Postby Mr._Avoider » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:58 pm

Lewisn20 wrote:This so far sounds like my ex in regards to him pulling away. Though a smaller part of his personality. Is it possible to have, or to have traits of more than one PD? I believe from what I've read that my ex has AsPD with alot of traits of NPD, a bit of HPD and some AvPD. Is that possible?!

Maybe you should take closer look into AsPD and NPD subtypes
http://millon.net/taxonomy/summary.htm
Maybe compensatory narcissistic subtype and nomadic AsPD subtype.

"Normal" AvPD person has hardly AsPD and histrionic/risk taking(?) features.
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Featuring: AvPD and SPD symptoms (under schizotypy umbrella).
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