Do you like being sad?

to be touched by something emotionally. yeah.
being sad and miserable. no.



starbuck...
you're alive...

Ssdd don't discount your thoughts with calling it 'amateur thinking'... it's absolutely not that, what you say is how it is actually... and I feel great angst because I don't fit into this vague definition of what I think a normal state is...

if you look at the definition of stpd a lot of that is just deviating from the boring norm... and it's classed as a disorder.. but I guess the crucial factor is that it heavily affects one's daily life...

Me two wrote:Ssdd don't discount your thoughts with calling it 'amateur thinking'... it's absolutely not that, what you say is how it is actually... and I feel great angst because I don't fit into this vague definition of what I think a normal state is...

if you look at the definition of stpd a lot of that is just deviating from the boring norm... and it's classed as a disorder.. but I guess the crucial factor is that it heavily affects one's daily life...

I wasn't discounting my thinking by saying "amateur". Just that its only my thinking and nothing else because when you have only your own mind to give thoughts to a subject, this can sometimes be problematic.

Me two wrote:it heavily affects one's daily life...

Define affects?

I am saying/wondering that social & life expectations (normal) and then deviation from such expectations can lead to stress, anxiety, distress, suffering, etc.

Then I misunderstood you thinking it wcs modesty. no offence... what I meant was, pds impact lives in a big way... and that is where I think the difference is between oh she's just a bit different and oh there's something wrong with her. I don't think I need to explain that as it's part of the description of pds. But with stpd, for instance, someone with those traits could lead a healthy life, but someone else may be more extreme and restrict their lives and actions due to their beliefs/'delusions' etc etc .. I was just agreeing with the main part of what you wrote you know.

Me two wrote:Then I misunderstood you thinking it wcs modesty. no offence... what I meant was, pds impact lives in a big way... and that is where I think the difference is between oh she's just a bit different and oh there's something wrong with her. I don't think I need to explain that as it's part of the description of pds.

What is pds please?

And you will have to define what the difference is between "oh she's just a bit different and oh there's something wrong with her.", if indeed a difference can be arrived at, not to mention the task of defining "wrong".

When I have looked at any given subject, I have found so many things are simply based on a succession of opinions, which have all been reinforced with different types of compliance in order to get to a "definition", "determination" or "premise". But ultimately, I am thinking, often times it is all still just opinion and not testable facts.

Me two wrote:But with stpd, for instance, someone with those traits could lead a healthy life, but someone else may be more extreme and restrict their lives and actions due to their beliefs/'delusions' etc etc .. I was just agreeing with the main part of what you wrote you know.

"healthy", 'extreme", "restrict" - all these words are opinion based definitions, defined by how they deviate from the "norm", which is itself a word that is just an opinion.

Once you start to question everything, you realize how many things in the human world are built on opinion and compliance....and thus, how much may not be true or factual at all.

You know what?
please go pick apart someone else's posts. ssd...
that is all.

Me two wrote:You know what?
please go pick apart someone else's posts. ssd...
that is all.

I'm not doing as you allege. There was no malice intended. You are overreacting.

If you can't take people commenting on what you say, perhaps you should not be in public forums.

Please don't think that I am telling you where to post - and I have no problem with your posts, SSDD. It's just that this style of discussion blooms wonderfully in schizoid forum. You would certainly find people willing to discuss and question all these definitions in detached style, et cetera.

clydedenver, I definitely agree that being sad feels "safer". There is something of acceptance in it. When I feel happy, I get a little nervous and scared - I just know that something will ruin my mood any second now. I wish I could forget about it to experience pure happiness. There is certainly something beautiful about melancholy - creative people are rarely the happiest kind, afterall, and are often melancholy prone. Sadness can be inspiring.

venividivicky wrote:creative people are rarely the happiest kind, afterall, and are often melancholy prone

this is true. i can't even make a decent joke anymore. feeling good. so good i want to plaster whipped cream all over the floor and roll in it. i think maybe it could feel wonderful on my skin. this had a point but i lost it. anyway. definitely feeling good and i'm not even drugging it up.

As for myself, I'll fight diligently to avoid even a glimmer of sadness (I can safely say that I hate it). I have been in clinical depression before and I never want to be there again (with any one of the accompanying symptoms, including a pronounced change in mood and behavior, social isolation, diminished interest in almost all activities, a notable change in eating habits and sleeping patterns, and intense feelings of worthlessness or unwarranted guilt). I never want to go there again so, again, I fight even a glimmer of it, or even any negative emotions, if at all possible...