I want to give you something special, some hope perhaps

Thessalonia wrote:Hello, Nevergive_up. I'm glad you found something that really works for you. Someone I know had mentioned something like this and I thought it sounded very weird. I thought, "No way!" Now that I know about your success, I think I might look into it.

I know when I saw this 5 months ago on youtube I tried to do the whole tapping thing. I tried two rounds after quitting it all toghter. Too much resistance whitin. It looked way TOO weird for me and like many you was very spectical that it could do any good . I closed the page and dident look back

3 Months later by chanse I saw a program about dating ( total obession for me still to this day lol ) . And this women came up to the stage offering help to man regarding inner game . She offer many suggestions how to increase self esteem . Afformations where discussed , positive self talk ect ect

Then she came with a story about a client she had. He was very succesfull bussiness wais, was long dark hansom but had really intense approach anxiaty and therefor very limited experiance with the oppisite sex . It was one earae he dindet have handeld in his life He coudent even say hi, let alone close the deal. Every time he saw a girl he liked , he came up with these things to say but when to time came to take action he would fiend himself frozen in fear . Of course when the night was over he was beating himself for being such a wuss

The next time he had an oppiontment with her she mentioned if would like to try a new thing called eft for clearing that anxiaty. He was willing to try anyting so they went and did about a half hour of tapping and later that night went into the field( some bars) to test it. For the first time in his life he could open an conversation with the oppisite sex without feeling anxious whatsoever. The man had this intence fear for whole his life and it was cleared with eft whitin half an hour never to come back again . Now he can approch whatever girl he likes without trembeling in fear

Since it wasent the first time I heared about eft I dicded to give it a try , for real this time . I got over the spectisisem with the results that where mentioned priviously in this tread. Im really glad I did it, it has changed so many things in my life in such a short time

That book you ordered the guide to overcoming adp, it will most likley encourage you to take more social riks , to deal with the past the hurt and terrified inner child within, to step out your comfertzone, to have a more normal relationship with yourself , to silent the inner cirtic( just a guess let me know when the book arrives lol) . While this all can be achieved it will most likley go with up and downs, some relapses but you can get there. You will most likley have to give it a couple of years but it can be achieved . . Combine this with eft and you will also get there but MUCH MUCH faster then you would going the traditinal way and with a lot less efford .Im not talking about reducing the symptems but a real cure. Im very coutious about giving popele false hope since most of us woudent be able to take on other dissapiontment but im so confident in this that I can make this statement . The odds might slightly againts you in you where to do in the traditinal way ( without eft), since poeple with adp avoid risks/pain at any cost plus they might have the tendacy to give up easally when things dont go their way. That being say it still can be done . You still can prove them wrong. Witch eft and a positive mindset however to adds are in your favor . Since much can be cleared very rapidly. Its up too you if you want to give it a try I cant force you to do anything . But if you dicide to give it a try your life will improve for the better , that I can promice

twistermind wrote:Thanks for the information. I´m quite sceptical but I saw in a House chapter how a man had a surgery while he was sleeping with accupunture. I´ll have a look at it.
I also want to tell you that relaxation exercises are really useful to reduce anxiety.

Relaxation exercises are useful, I have gotten into mindfullness ( witch is very similar) and it did help me reduce the anxiaty I had. Eft however is much more effective and once gone it wont come back

To illustrate what I mean :

For as long as I can remember I had this feeling. This intence feeling of discomfert when being around poeple ( without even having to interact with them ) . Just being amoung them was hell for me

On a scale of 1 to 10 it was a 10

Walking trew the park I tought poeple where juding me by the way I look
When I saw a groep of grils laughing is was always ''100% sure'' they would be making fun of me
When I went to buy groeserys I got the feeling poeple where looking at just me
When I went to buy sigarets, I always made sure that the conversations were as short as possible , afraid that clerk would judge me
Even when someone looked slighty intimidating I would just tremble in fear even when they would be on the other site of the street afraid they might hurt me
I would look out of the window before going outside to see if any of my neigbours where present , terrified of encountering them and having to make small talk

There are many more expamles I could give you but I think you get the idea

In therapy I leared when you fully surrender to a situation on a regular basis the fear you might have will slowsly decrease . And it really worked, very slowsly but it decreased somewhat over time . I was comitted to get this handedeld and would evuenally get there even tough it was still uncomfertbale to do it

One night I stared to give this eft thing an other try and stated to tap on this fear I had when being around poeple. I tapped on every possible worst case cenario I could think off . After about 35 minI was done tapping and I didnet feel any diffrent , and would again drowm in self petty. How would I be so stupid to believe it might work, why do I always do this to myself , its hopeless bla bla bla

I decided to go outside to score some weed to easy the pain dealing with yet an other failure . Its a 45 min walk in one of the most worst eareas in my town. Wile walking I encountered two Turkish kinda scary looking karakters . I passed them but something was off. I couldent get my finger on it. 5 more min of walking further I got it. There wasent that feeling I grown acostem to, that intense fear. I tought to myself mabye your having a good day who knows

I just kept walking and to my relief I saw a groep of dealing mocro's( poeple from morroco , who are know to be very loud and voilent). I tought it was fun wile it lasted but when crossing their pats I would be frozen in fear like I always to. I come closer, I see them noticing me , looking at me but noting was going on , no fear no ucomfertbale feelings what so ever . I was still in denial that there might something be going on alough a very tiney part of me was really exited but I needed some more proof

Still walking to that coffeeshop to get my weed, I see a group of negro's but they are accross the streets . One more time I needed to know. So I cross the streets and I slow down the pace im walking to really feel it. As I come to their neighbourhood I did not now what to expect but I wanted to see. AS I fannly arrive where they hang out, I look at them two of them are looking right back but no discomfert what so ever. I was finally convinsed this coudent be just a good day that more was going on .

All it took was 35 min of eft, and since that they I never had the feelings I have grown so accostmed to for most of my life . It went from a scale to 1 to 10 from a 10 to a 2.5 tops

Parador wrote:Re: I want to give you something special, some hope perhaps
by Parador » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:56 pm
That was my big exiting Saturday night back in the 90s -I would bake something. Then watch two Red Dwarf Episodes. They used to show two at a time on PBS. Then sometimes they woud have a marathon when they would show the whole season in one night. I believe it was in mid March. I remember because we would have huge snowstorms in mid March and I was afraid the station would go off the air.

It did not air in much of the US. PBS in VT carried it, but not the one in NY. Or many other states. It was big in Seattle where it aired. Apparently the new one is just 3 episodes. Looks like that's all we will ever get. It's on DVD. I see it on amazon - Red Dward Back to Earth.

Oh well - at least we still have a stargate series going.

Yeah, me too. I'd just sit there, eat some sweets and watch Red Dwarf and Doctor Who on Saturday nights. While all the other pre-teens and teens were out there having fun going to slumber parties or hanging out. That was my excitement for the week!

Yeah, Stargate Universe! When are they gonna have that on again? I loved the last one where Dr. Rush finally got his butt kicked and got left on that planet. He had that one coming for a while! I used to like his character in the beginning because he kind of reminds me of Dr. House. (I'm not sure if you watch that show.) But at least Dr. House has some conscience, some compassion--even though he is a complete jerk (why do I like him, anyway?) Dr. Rush, on the other hand, is starting to act like a psycho.

Anyway, I've been reading a lot of the old posts on this forum and you have got to be THE funniest guy on here. You manage to have a great attitude even while dealing with all the problems we have to face as people with AvPD. You're an inspiration.

Thanks for chatting.

Thank you for your kind advice. It sounds like you're doing great.

I'm glad that you're loosing your fear of people. And even though you had discomfort around racial minority groups in the past...

Nevergive_up wrote:Wile walking I encountered two Turkish kinda scary looking karakters .

Nevergive_up wrote:( poeple from morroco , who are know to be very loud and voilent).

Nevergive_up wrote:I see a group of negro's but they are accross the streets

that now you are learning you can approach them without fear. I hope that you continue to grow and can work on the stereotypes that we all can have (whether we like to admit it or not.) You're beginning to see that all of us, in the words of Dr. King, "should not be judged by the color of their skin [or race] but by the content of their character." All races have good and bad people, whether black, white, spanish, Turkish, whatever. No whole race should be judged or condemned for the actions of just some of its members. Everyone should be judged as an individual. If one person from a racial group does something to frighten us then we should fear that one person--not their entire race. But I think you're beginning to see that already.

I'm so glad that you're doing better.

Thessalonia wrote:[
Yeah, Stargate Universe! When are they gonna have that on again? I loved the last one where Dr. Rush finally got his butt kicked and got left on that planet. He had that one coming for a while! I used to like his character in the beginning because he kind of reminds me of Dr. House. (I'm not sure if you watch that show.) But at least Dr. House has some conscience, some compassion--even though he is a complete jerk (why do I like him, anyway?) Dr. Rush, on the other hand, is starting to act like a psycho.

Anyway, I've been reading a lot of the old posts on this forum and you have got to be THE funniest guy on here. You manage to have a great attitude even while dealing with all the problems we have to face as people with AvPD. You're an inspiration.

Thanks for chatting.

I love crazy Rush! We get to see him again at the beginning of April I believe. He's not funny like House, but he makes up for it by being ruthless! I like House because he gets to say all the things us normal folk can't say - they would be socially unacceptable. I got my butt kicked out of work for going up against my boss. I got proven right when the program I ran got shut down. I wonder how they will end House - when that day comes. I hope he gets taken by aliens!

Dear Parador and Tessalonia , it seems like your getting along but can you take the chit chat somewhere else . It has really nothing to do with the topic itself. Thanks in advance

You can use pm, msn skype make your choise

I'm sorry, but I think every thread shoud be about aliens or hookers or opera.

Sounds intriguing. I'll have to speak to someone about it and find out if it's available on the health service. I've done CBT but didn't really find the majority of it helpful. I'll check this out.

OK - on topic now. This is what I read about it:

Testing of the EFT hypothesis through the use of a placebo group produced the same positive changes in recipients as following the EFT's standard methodology. A 2007 article in the Guardian suggested that the act of tapping parts of the body in a complicated sequence acts as a distraction, and therefore can appear to alleviate the root distress.

After The Fall wrote:Sounds intriguing. I'll have to speak to someone about it and find out if it's available on the health service. I've done CBT but didn't really find the majority of it helpful. I'll check this out.

You really dindent fiend CBT helpfull? For me it has helped me to silent the inner critic , its still there but for the first time I feel like I have the control of my toughts . There is just so much more pease in my head cant remember ever having that

Back ot: EFT is still fairly new, many therapist/counslers still are not aware of its existance it might be hard to fiend someone who has accepted eft as a part of the treatmentplan. That being said, more and more proffecionals are seing the befifits of eft and have statred to use it on their clients .

What im trying to say, if you where not to fiend any counsler who uses this dont let it stop you from downloading the FREE manual. Much of this can be used when your by yourself. The hardest thing might be to get over the :

Sounds WAY too good to be true
This looks soo gay . no way in hell...

If you can get past that the real work can begin

@ Parador: I can only speek for myself , for example regarding my fear of being among poeple. There isent just a brief relief of that fear as the artical in the guardian suggest, its gone. Never to return again , brief relieve my ass . Not only that problem is gona but so many others as well that I have metnioned here

Studies also show that a placebo is just as effective as for exmaple ssri's . Yet milions swollow that junk instead of taking M&M's who are supposed to be just as effective . These studies are meaningess to me. Im sure you can even fiend more proof that supports yours sceptisisem but instead of waisting your energy on that. You could give it the befifit of a doubt , it might do some good for you , I'll leave that all up to you