If there were no hot people.

How much of peoples attempts at social acceptance is based on getting a good looking partner and not for social reasons.

If all the hot people(men and women) vanished from the earth would the nerds, socially inept, avoidants and schizoids who defend the mainstream suddenly gain a much more vile view of it?


I'm not talking about the mentally ill kind of avoidants and nerds.
I mean the more mainstream, comic book store running nerds.

I would like to think that they would. I would like to think that anyone who defends the mainstream and tries to reinforce ideas of normality in terms of appearance could be made to see things differently. But that's cus I'm just bitter......

Well, not being attracted to someone definitely makes conversation easier.

Asuka wrote:He he. If all the "hot" people, which includes myself of course ...

Hah, you narcissist!

Asuka wrote: ... , were erased then society would redefine a new definition of "hot" so the whole thing would happen again. Its not the "hot" people who are to blame its society and the human condition. Actually I find the popular people, most of whom are avergage in appearance, annoy me far more.

I think you are quite right in pointing out that the OP is putting too much emphasis on looks. I know society is in some way obsessed with this, but I think you have to view this more in terms of alpha status in a group. From an evolutionary point of view any attempt at social acceptance is probably, consciously or unconsciously, an attempt to gain credence within the tribe and possibly attain this alpha status. Even if all the people that are considered to be more attractive than average were to suddenly perish, I doubt anyone with avoidant tendencies will suddenly find themselves to be dominant or assertive. I guess I'm taking a very Darwinist point of view on this.

Asuka wrote:Nerds can be hot! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Pakrul

Don't you agree?

Ungh, I love geeky girls. The problem is, most geeky girls know they're very much wanted by a particular section of the population and will take great advantage of it. But then, maybe so would I if I were in that situation.

Yes, I'm frustrated.

That topic is haunting me today. I had a lecture about evolution and attraction today.
When I hear/read these things I feel like an alien. From evolutionary point of view, I should be attracted to masculine looking guys or high status alpha males depending on my menstrual cycle, but I like neither.
I dislike status symbols like expensive cars brand clothing and hoards of friends and I'm most likely attracted by nerds and weirdos (pale,rather small and thin, glasses, freckles...). Maybe I'm settling for what I can get, but it happens much more often that normal looking guys chat me up,so it doesn't really make sense.

I'm actually thinking about improving my own appearance, getting a haircut and loosing some weight maybe. But I don't think I do that in order to attract potential partners. There's lots of beautiful women so I don't see why anyone would pick me.

darklight wrote:I'm actually thinking about improving my own appearance, getting a haircut and loosing some weight maybe. But I don't think I do that in order to attract potential partners.

Well it can really help your self-confidence. Sometimes, that is. I was considering starting a thread on the use of physical exercise to combat depression and other AvPD symptoms, but then I'm very erratic in actually practicing what I preach.

Asuka wrote:I don't find that tan thing sexy at all. In fact the paler the skin and the less make up the better. Actually the girl in the link would be quite typical of the type of girl I find attractive. Glasses really suit some people.

I couldn't agree with you more. But then I really do have a thing for glasses...

And I know it's a huge cliche, but in the end personality probably accounts for a lot more than looks.

Nah, I'm hot also. I'm sure there's plenty of hot avoidants. Have you read the theory that some try extra hard to look hot so they have at least something that people like? Well, there's me haha.

And anyone see if THIS makes sense...

I have trouble talking to men not because of sexual tension or anything like that. I'm worried that if I'm too friendly,they will think I like them and be offended. Like even if I don't LIKE them, if they think I do they won't want me to and be like "ew why is she flirting with me"
Its so weird. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

I have trouble talking to men not because of sexual tension or anything like that. I'm worried that if I'm too friendly,they will think I like them and be offended. Like even if I don't LIKE them, if they think I do they won't want me to and be like "ew why is she flirting with me"
Its so weird. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I also find myself thinking that.

Regarding appearance I do the opposite. If I don't try my best to look good, at least nobody will be disappointed when they get to know me. But I had a phase, some years ago, when I did the whole make-up thing and stuff. But I never felt comfortable with it. It always felt like pretending something.So now I only dress up if I feel like it and not so much for other people.

If there were no hot people ?

It would start the era of "The Freak Wars", which would continue
until most of the planet was depopulated. Some would escape underground, or into space.
To be honest my current outlook is based on the idea of hotter, and nicer people than myself. If I were to lose this, I would have to find a "religion", turn to powerful drugs, or begin full scale preparation for "The Freak Wars".
Wow, DXP your tearing down the walls pretty quick. Careful, intellectual fearlessness can lead people places the heart can't handle. The time goes by like nothing anyway, at 40 wondering where it went. Wouldnt trade it. Check out buddhism from a philosophical perspective, has great wisdom about desire, and male/female energies.