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I have to report something to adult protective services.

Postby Parador » Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:21 pm

Has anyone done that before? My boss says I don't have to. But they tell us to report if there is any doubt. I told her that. She said she thought I was just doing it to get the guy. He works for me and he can be a pain.

Let me make it clear. I work at a psych hospital. One of the guys who works for me is a former patient. I didn't hire him. My boss did. I never thought it was a good idea for him to work there. When he was a patient he had a sexual relationship with another patient. That same patient comes back sometimes and he has resumed the relationship. He is now a STAFF. He can't be having relationships with patients. That rule is very clear. But he is also considered a vulnerable adult since he lives under supervision. He's telling me that makes it alright. I'm really not sure. It's not really my decision to make. I told my boss that. I told one of the psychologists and he told my worker to stop. My worker told me he wasn't going to end it.

My understanding of these situations is that I must report to adult protective services. I have 48 hours to do so. It's the law - I am a mandated reporter. I told my boss that I would wait 24 hours and give her time to talk to the exec director.

This whole thing could blow up big time.
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Postby Chucky » Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:00 pm

Hi,

I have reported people to other similar services before, but this situation is slightly different. All I can say is this: Do what you think would be best (in the long term) for the majority of people involved in the situation. If I was in your situation, I would report it, but I'm not sure about the legalities of it at all. Plus, I'm sure that they treat all complaints anonymously.

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Postby Parador » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:44 pm

It's the law- I MUST report any suspected exploitation or abuse or I am the one breaking the law. People just don't seem to be taking that law seriously. My assistant just says that lots of things go on that aren't supposed to. The dietician says wait on reporting it, like it will just go away. This guy is the biggest blabbermouth in the world. He won't have any problem with telling everyone he was having relations with this woman and that I knew all about it.

If an investigation comes down everyone will know I was the one who reported it. The administration will not be happy. Like I said my boss doesn't want me to report.

I HATE the job. I HATE my teeth. It's all coming to gether at once. I HATE my life. HATE FATE HATE.
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Postby Nick » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:11 pm

stop snitchin'
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Postby Chucky » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:23 pm

If it's the law, then obey it. However, be aware that people break the law everyday by jaywalking, littering, bullying people, etc. Even te law-enforcers themselves break the laws that they are supposed to protect. You seem so adament that this is something you must do, so why the procrastinating? Just get it done and over with.

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Postby Parador » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:54 pm

I'm not going to get fired, get fined $100,000 or do a year in prison for jaywalking. I have to cover myself here. Don't give me a hard time about procrastinating - I only found out about it 8 hours ago. I reported it to administration. They like to ignore things like this. That's why the place got decertified twice. The exec director hasn't said anything to me yet.

stop snitchin'


Golly nick, that's a great attitude. If you're ever locked up and someone is abusing or exploiting you, would you like it if I just looked the other way and let it happen?

I really don't think I like many of the people here. Or anywhere.
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Postby The Creeper » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:56 pm

You did the right thing, Parador.
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Postby Iconoclast » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:49 am

Real nice. If we can't be supportive here; with our fellows... I mean come on Nick, that wasn't helpful in the least. From the sounds of it you've been snitched on before or something. Regardless, why don't you explain your viewpoint instead of contributing to the problem? The last thing any of us need is added stress; we all know that on a very personal level.

Parador, I sympathize. It'd be a hard decision to make for anyone with a conscience, let alone an Avoidant. Ultimately the Law is a scary thing. It can take away freedom in an instant, and sometimes with very questionable just cause. That's my opinion anyway, I admittedly worry about losing my freedoms quite often for no immediate reasons.

If I were in your position I'd do as you did, tell your boss you feel you are obligated by Law to report the issue. After the allotted time I think I would again stress to them how important you feel the issue is. Then it's up to your own judgment and understanding of the situation. Harmony at work but having to worry about the issue popping up later on and possibly coming back to haunt you or possibly having to rock the boat to secure responsibility in the eyes of the Law. No easy answers from the sounds of it. Good luck though, let us know how things go.
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Postby Ikari Shinji » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:43 am

You did what had to be done, right and wrong can go to hell. Forget what everyone else thinks, you shouldn't risk getting a fine or losing your job over someone else's relationship.

Don't get me wrong though, I am not saying this is the right thing to do (or the wrong thing either) I am just saying that there are times in your life where morality must be thrown aside and you must do what is neccesary for your wellbeing. There are times and places for morality and this wasn't one of them.
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Postby Parador » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:33 pm

My boss never told the exec director like she said she would. That is typical of the place. Nobody does wht they're suppoosed to do. I e-mailed the exec director and told her what is happening. She has given a directive in the past to report to her before reporting to APS.

Don't get me wrong though, I am not saying this is the right thing to do (or the wrong thing either) I am just saying that there are times in your life where morality must be thrown aside


I don't understand how reporting a possible crime can be considered immoral. This guy is insisting that he has the right to have relations with patients even though it is clearly against the law. He can if he quits his hospital job.
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