Can you have both avpd and bpd?

Unknownfate,

yes it is possible to have both as at one point I did and it was actually lily who pointed me in the direction of seeing it the first time around. In more recent years it has turned into nearly pure avpd but the bpd traits were definitely there for a while. I have the book blank recommended and it is a really good one for learning about both bpd and avpd so highly recommended. Another avenue you could pursue is doing an astrological chart off astro.com and checking out their 'astroclick portrait'. This doesn't really talk about disorders the way psychology does but it will mention personality traits and might be useful in getting you to see yourself differently.

I went through some 6-7 years where you could say I didn't have anything resembling a relationship in my life so that is not unlikely if you do have avpd. That said it is a possibility you have it too with the pattern you are seeing and if that's the case you can work on it by doing some things - going to therapy, cataloguing what you are seeing yourself doing, and maybe writing down exact goals you want to achieve along with whatever you think will help you get there, especially anything that will help you stay aware of yourself during the times when you get triggered (feel like they will hate you and want to run.)

what does it matter?it doesn't really matter though ,only if you do different kind of therapy if you are avpd. but i have read indeed that is very common to have both traits of both disorders.
they also diagnose more easy bpd when they see impulsiveness i think. but reading the forum i also see borderlines too with very bad relationships avoiding.so is confusing because the first impression is the opposite.
there was this girl once in the forum ,probably rare that was diagnosed with avoidant because she didn't want to talk to anyone but after years they thought it was wrong and she was borderline because of the underline reason.
there is a borderline that is called hermit bpd also and is the less narcissistic. all this labels is very difficult to understand what is the difference between hermit borderline or quiet borderline and avoidance. is it just a mix of both? i do not know
maybe it doesn't really matter there are just made up labels


sorry this is answer for the other topic also that you wonder if you are avoidant and not borderline. i posted in the wrong topic

Hi Julia yes it is all confusing! I'm not narcissistic at all, I guess I fit the "hermit, quiet borderline".. I think I may have a mix of avpd/bpd. I'll have to talk to my therapist

julllia wrote:there is a borderline that is called hermit bpd also and is the less narcissistic.

I've never heard that term before.

you can google. i have googled too much and although i learned a lot i didn't make any conclusion of what i was wondering about myself.nothing. i think is easier to tell about others than yourself.

i mean you can find quiet bpd in google and hermit bpd and avpd/bpd is often.
you can not find the difference between quiet bpd and avpd.
but you can find the difference of almost any other pd.

actually the hermit was one of the most fun stuff i read.i do not know why i found this categories amusing. i think though is more about mothers and not in general. like prototypes.
there are 4 types of borderline they say. you can google for details.
the waif ,the queen, the witch and the hermit(the hermit is rare)
the witch and the queen are narcissistic . the other too less narcissistic.
in my opinion though it seems like you can have traits of all of them or more than one at least.

i am thinking maybe quiet bpd is a mix bpd/avpd. but i think the only time that matters is when you are in therapy and you have to deal with the problem and you do different therapy for bpd inner reason than avpd. otherwise they are just made up labels, what does it matter?

I would not look at the outer symptoms. Many symptoms are similar for different PDs. I would focus on how you feel inside. That's from where the difference comes.

lol ->now i saw a video that said bpd has traits of all personality disorders.(with something predominant) anyway i think one of the first things i read was that is very common to have both avpd and bpd.
but i have read other posts of the op and has such impulsivity that probably is not just avoidant