Personality Inventory PID-5

creative_nothing wrote:It seens that in this test, intimacy avoidance is involved at AvPD. I thought those questions were more schizoid, while avoidants would crave for intimacy.

I prefer to keep romance out of my life.
I enjoy being in love.
I prefer being alone to having a close romantic partner.

Not that I can speak for everyone, but Avoidants crave the IDEA of intimacy, but they hang back hard from ACTUAL intimacy. It is easier to be alone, almost by default.

I answered a "Somewhat True" score to the question "I enjoy being in love," but I have never been in love with a person. The endorphin/dopamine rush associated with being in love can also be triggered by other things like an obsession with William Blake or Nietzsche, or studying how to get in touch with the divine, or a thousand other things. But having a romantic partner...? That sounds terrifying, and an awful lot of mundane work and sharing which intellectual ideas don't demand of you.

BTW, the PDs that were highlighted in red for me were Avoidant and Schizotypal. Hey I'm 45 years old and have been seeing a therapist for almost 20 years. Tell me something I don't know.

But a hearty thanks to the Original Poster who created the spreadsheet...I learned a thing or two about Google Sheets, which I didn't know existed until 2 hours ago.

I wanted to attach my results as a screen shot, but I had all kinds of issues with doing that??
I don't know which figures I should look at, but I think its the average column?

Red areas
Anhedonia = 2.88
Withdrawal = 2.60

Yellow areas
Depressivity = 1.14
Distractibility = 1.33
Risk Taking = 1.14

Everything else was white.

The PD tab shows that I have not met the criteria for any disorder.

SSDD-247 wrote:I wanted to attach my results as a screen shot, but I had all kinds of issues with doing that??
I don't know which figures I should look at, but I think its the average column?

Red areas
Anhedonia = 2.88
Withdrawal = 2.60

Yellow areas
Depressivity = 1.14
Distractibility = 1.33
Risk Taking = 1.14

Everything else was white.

The PD tab shows that I have not met the criteria for any disorder.

I am healthy and got just five white areas.

At least that is whay psychiatrist and psychologist have said.

That is why I dislike this kind of test.

Anhedonia 8 24 10 1,25
Anxiousness 9 27 17 1,89
Attention Seeking 8 24 14 1,75
Callousness 14 42 6 0,43
Deceitfulness 10 30 14 1,40
Depressivity 14 42 9 0,64
Distractibility 9 27 16 1,78
Eccentricity 13 39 34 2,62
Emotional Lability 7 21 12 1,71
Grandiosity 6 18 6 1,00
Hostility 10 30 20 2,00
Impulsivity 6 18 7 1,17
Intimacy Avoidance 6 18 9 1,50
Irresponsibility 7 21 7 1,00
Manipulativeness 5 15 8 1,60
Perceptual Dysregulation 12 36 12 1,00
Perseveration 9 27 18 2,00
Restricted Affectivity 7 21 14 2,00
Rigid Perfectionism 10 30 13 1,30
Risk Taking 14 42 9 0,64
Separation Insecurity 7 21 4 0,57
Submissiveness 4 12 5 1,25
Suspiciousness 7 21 16 2,29
Unusual Beliefs & Experiences 8 24 6 0,75
Withdrawal 10 30 23 2,30

I make up stories about things that happened that are totally untrue.

2 = Sometimes or Somewhat True
Notice that it doenst mention I frequently make up, just I make up.

I often make up things about myself to help me get what I want.

3 = Very True or Often True
SO WHAT? Does it make me a psycopath?

People don’t realize that I’m flattering them to get something.

Dont know 0 = Very False or Often False Vs 1 = Sometimes or Somewhat False
Picked up 0.

I can be sneaky if it means getting what I want.

1 = Sometimes or Somewhat False
I am cautiouss, and sneaky on a more defensive way.

Sometimes you need to exaggerate to get ahead.

3 = Very True or Often True
WTF! Does it mean that only by acknowledging that SOMETIMES you need to exaggerate is Often True makes you a psycopath?

I don’t hesitate to cheat if it gets me ahead.

0 = Very False or Often False
However it doesnt matter, as I've scored on the other questions I am now deceitful as a PSYCOPATH.

I use people to get what I want.

3 = Very True or Often True
Common, everybody is using each other. If people had no use for each other they would be living at remote cabins in the woods, dont you think? But againg in this test, this implies you are a psycopath.

Lying comes easily to me.

0 = Very False or Often False
I am bad liar, however again it doesnt matter, as I've scored high on the other!

I’ll stretch the truth if it’s to my advantage.

2 = Sometimes or Somewhat True
Sometimes I do that. Mostly for self-defense again. But I am not callous, and wont do that if it is going to hurt someone. If this questions trully imply psycopathy, any seller, marketing, or lawyer would be a psycopath.

TOTAL SCORE: 1,40
DX: ALMOST A PSYCOPATH

-- Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:04 pm --

I can be sneaky if it means getting what I want.

Review it to 2. Indeed sometimes true.
New DX: Deceitful as Psycopath

To meet the requirements for APD, you'd have to meet more than just the dishonesty requirement. Someone can be a major liar and not be a sociopath. Pathological lying has been associated with BPD and other PDs as well. Or someone can just have a problem with lying. That's why there is more than one requirement that needs to be met for a diagnosis of a PD.

There was a scientific study done on whether the PID5 is as accurate as the MMPI and they found that it was just as effective. I'd venture to say it's even more accurate because it's based off personality traits rather than behaviors. There is a huge overlap in behaviors in PDs that can be brought on by various personality factors. Like someone being secretive can be secretive because they are paranoid and afraid of that info being used against them (PPD), or they can be secretive because they are afraid that if others really know them they'd be rejected (AvPD). So judging a PD by behaviors is not accurate. Assessing someone's 5 factors of personality has been studied forever and has shown accuracy across time. Behavior patterns can easily change over time. But someone's basic personality doesn't generally change much. So I think basing the PD diagnosis off of personality traits is a lot more logical and accurate.

I found my assessment to be dead on. And I learned that I have OCPD, which was then verified by my psychologist AFTER the fact. The only two PDs I meet the criteria for are OCPD and AvPD and they both seem to describe me very accurately. I am an extremely honest person, I never lie about anything, so my responses to those questions were accurate.

If you don't feel like you lie to an extreme, you'd mark a lower score on those questions. Your average score overall on those questions determines if you are within the normal range or not. That's why there are several questions on the same thing. I filled out the PID 5 for my ex, who lied a LOT but was actually a cluster C. He did not meet enough criteria to be considered APD on the assessment because he does not meet enough of the other criteria.

There is also a "PD otherwise stated" category, or something like that in the DSM 5. Where if someone does not meet the criteria for a specific PD, but is dysfunctional in enough areas, they could get diagnosed with that. Or there is a specifier that can be added onto the main PD, to add other traits that aren't included on that PD normally. But since PDs aren't black and white, you can add to them. So, for instance, if someone had high paranoia, but didn't meet enough criteria for Schizotypal, but met enough for AvPD, they could be diagnosed with AvPD with added specifier for paranoia.

If you don't feel like you lie to an extreme, you'd mark a lower score on those questions.

Then my answers would be a lie.

Common, this is a constructive criticism. I avoided reaching 0s and 3s unless I was sure about the question and I ve got tons of yelllows as a consequence.

Red traits:
Anxiousness
Attention seeking
Callousness
Deceitfulness
Distractability
Emotional lability
Grandiosity
Hostility
Manipulativeness
Preservation
Separation insecurity

Red domains:
Negative affect
Antagonism

PD criteria:
ASPD (YES)
AVPD (NO)
BPD (YES)
NPD (YES)
OCPD (NO)
STPD (NO)

Diagnosed: BPD, NPD, conduct disorder.

Judgement: This is pretty accurate.

I'm not sure how accurate or useful this test is, but would these results be something to be concerned about?

Anhedonia: 2.25
Anxiousness: 2.777...
Attention seeking: 0.25
Callousness: 1.57
Deceitfulness: 2.1
Depresssiveness: 2.07
Distractibility: 2.444...
Eccentricity: 2.846
Emotional lability: 1.857
Grandiosity: 1.666...
Hostility: 1.6
Impulsivity: 1.5
Intimacy avoidance: 2.8333...
Irresponsibilty: 1.714
Manipulativeness: 1.6
Perceptual dysregulation: 2.25
Perserveration: 2.111...
Restricted affectivity: 1.42857
Rigid perfectionism: 1.4
Risk taking: 1.2857
Seperation insecurity: 0.5714
Submissiveness: 2.5
Suspiciousness: 2.714
Unusual beliefs & experiences: 2.625
Withdrawal: 2.8


Total Average
Negative affect: 5.2054 1.7351333...
Detachment: 7.8833 2.6277666...
Antagonism: 5.3666 1.7888666...
Disinhibition: 5.6584 1.8861333...
Psychoticism: 7.721 2.573666...


Btw, I also did this in Excel... but didn't see until too late that a user kindly made a template for it...

Also considering posting in another forum to get others' opinions... but not sure I should and if so where...

I've made this test before, but it's been some time.

Red:
Anhedonia 2.5
Anxiousness 2. 44
Depressivity 2.36
Suspiciousness 2.0
Withdrawal 2.0

Yellow:
Distractability 1.0
Hostility 1.2
Intimacy Avoidance 1.33
Restricted Affectivity 1.57
Submissiveness 1.00

Personality Trait Domain:
Detachment 2
Negative Affect 1

PDs
Avoidant Personality Disorder

I was somehow surprised by that result... I thought having "detachment" as my most prominent factor would make me turn out Schizoid this time. But I turned out Avoidant like the first time I took this test. I'm not officialy dxed but I identify with AvPD.

Is this still available? When I clicked on it, it said it was in the user's trash. I'd be interested in it!