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Aspies-Could they be the right wing's next target?

Postby trent » Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:29 pm

I have been reading a lot of articles on the war between the homosexual community and the Christian right, and I thought to myself that since Aspies (notice I have finally accepted the term) are a group of people that deviate from America's norms of social interaction, wouldn't that make them vulnerable to discrimination by hate groups?

I mean, come on! Unfortunately Aspies, for the most part, were naturally targeted by bullies and teachers with low self esteem in grade school. They are, a lot of times, considered by their immediate family members to be lost causes. The unsuccessful Aspies are stereotyped as inferior to society because they can't marry or purchase homes. The successful Aspies are stereotyped as Bill Gates-like (greedy, one-track minded, and geeky). Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who, if they saw Bill Gates interact in a social situation, they'd say, what the heck is that "retard" doing running a multi-billion dollar corporation? Satan is overtaking America. I'd better tell the Klan about this carnation of Satan, Bill Gates"!

The idea of Aspies being persecuted by the Christian right may seem preposterous but Aspies exhibit everything that the Christian right condemns.... Deviation of social norms, Different perceptions of the world, socially abnormal behavior...etc. Not to mention that the word "ass" forms the beginning of the word Asperger's. There is an Asperger’s community just as there is a gay community.

I can think of at least a few smear campaigns the Christian right would concoct against those with Asperger's syndrome. These smear campaigns would probably involve Christian fundamentalists making up lies about how Aspies disrupt the normative order of the Christian social interaction structures, about how Aspie adults will influence neuro-typical children to interact with their peers in socially absence ways. If the right wings Christians take giftedness into account, they will probably make up lies about how the Aspie's savant abillites were given to them by Satan, not God, as a means of disguising their social inferiorities. The right wing, as of right now, could put together campaigns to ban autistic children (high and low functioning) from America's schools if Special Ed programs take enough money away from Bush's pointless financial ventures.



I really don’t want to bear witness to my fellow Aspies suffering from the intolerance of others. But I want to warn them of the things that might come about in an America where the leaders are using all of their strength to keep the pendulum from swinging to the left. Think about it, we are probably bound to become the targets of hate groups sooner or later.

God save us from George W. Bush, Alan Keyes, Harvey Weinstein, Warren Jeffs, the fundamentalist Muslims, Christians and Jews, Osama Bin Ladin, the KKK, David Duke, the Satanist Churches, 50 Cent, the Republicrats and Democrans and all of the other disgusting fascists in the world today.
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Postby guest » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:08 am

Why? Just... why?
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Postby myopus_schisticolor » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:43 am

Trent, we will not succumb. Only in due time as the lable evolves and becomes maturly well-known. I believe that asperger's, from my experirence, is at a high point of prejeduce. Perhaps it may be the highest in its history. It seems misunderstood, misinterpteted right now, and the world needs to let it breath better. I often feel smothered.

AS is neither a handicap nor a crutch. I am walking. I am thinking. I am alive and unique. I am beatiful and strong at heart, I cannot back down from what I believe because I support it with all I've got. I may be the smallest black sheep, but I stick out like a vibrant rainbow.

I am also, a walking threat to conversations:) :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby adamdavid » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:00 am

Trent,

First, I would like to address your consideration of the denouncement of homosexuality as a "hate crime". The reason this practice is denounced among Christians is that it is clearly shown as sinful in the Word of God. Talking of the end times (now), Romans 1: 26-27 says,

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet."

Christian Americans denounce homosexuality in the hopes of saving our country from the "recompense of their error which was meet." In no way would a Godly Christian have hatred toward a homosexual individual; on the contrary, a Godly Christian would wish for that individual to see the error in his way and change for the better.

Also, the act of peaceful protestation in this country should never be considered a crime as it is ensured in the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. "

Now to get back on the subject, I would like to add that I do not think that the aspies (including myself) have anything to worry about. The Bible in no way says that the acts of disliking scratchy clothing or being smart or not communicating very well are sinful. What motive would any Christian have for commiting a "hate crime" toward a person who has clearly done nothing wrong according to the Word of God?
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Postby Spektyr » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:32 pm

I'd just to point out how enormously naive it is to say that the "moral majority" have, whatever they called themselves throughout time, based their attacks solely on what God calls a sin.

Slavery. Racial discrimination. Interracial marriage. Sexism.


The simple fact is that in government, in a court of law, what God has to say about anything does not belong. Separation of church and state.

It's infinitely easier for people to target those who are not "one of us". They find reasons, excuses, passages in religious texts that can be interpreted and reinterpreted to justify them...


Sure, homosexuality is quite a bit different than AS. I agree with you that there isn't any reason for Christians to hate us based upon their religion, but I'm not crazy enough to say that no Christians will make up one, find one. Do I think it will happen? Absolutely not. Would it surprise me if it did? Absolutely not.

I can't conceive of how someone can be that stupid to look at me and say that I'm not just as good as they are because my brain works a little differently. I can't conceive how someone can be so stupid that they think skin coloration has the slightest impact on whether someone is human or not.

But I know there are people that stupid. I can't understand them. I don't want to understand them. But I learned long ago to never underestimate stupidity. I still do it from time to time, get lazy, assume intelligence, and get blindsided by stupidity, but I learn.

"Talking of the end times (now)"...

Do you have the slightest clue how long people have agreed with that? Do you realize that people have believed they were living in the end times for the last two thousand years? Christ's own disciples thought that Judgement Day could be expected during their lives.

It's a society of laws, not religion. Argue the laws based on religion and you're admitting from the start that logic won't support you.
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Postby insoul » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:41 pm

I am sorry, I do not mean to offend, but the phrase "paranoid rant" is bouncing through my head at the reading of this thread. If you want to go on about who could one day be against Aspies, try saying everyone who is a NT that does not understand what aspergers is. Because that is where mans fear comes from, what he or she does not understand. And there will always be people who don't want to understand. And if you look at history it always seems to have to do with this "Good Book" or that "Good Book". Sometimes its not that, its a "Great" leader that the people follow like sheep. His views overunning the individual's beliefs and ideas becuase thay don't want to be left out of the herd. Its just a plain and simple fact. Man has been doing it from the begining and I suspect, man will be doing it a long way down the road.
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Postby Guest » Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:11 pm

I am a Christian that doesn't hate homosexuals or Aspies. My 12 year old son has been diagnosed with Asperger's and has received nothing but loving support from the Christian "Right".

BTW there are Christians and non-Christians alike that "hate" homosexuals. Actually, now that I think about, if a Christian hates a homosexual they are no Christian at all. Just because we may believe that the homosexual lifestyle is a "sin", doesn't mean we "hate" the homosexual. Geez, we would have to hate ourselves. We are all sinners. Not one of us on the face of the planet is without sin.

I would say judging "all" of the Christian Right as haters is pretty unfair, considering there are thousands upon thousands of us out there that love all people despite their sexual orientation or any other difference they may have compared to the majority.

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Postby Guest » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:00 pm

what does christianity have to do with AS? christianity throughout time has been persecuted...just like everyone else.

also, christians do not hate social deviates. its society they dont like. do not accept the way of the world.......
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Postby Young Juche » Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:58 am

Anyone who disscriminates against another grop by claiming they are evil, purely because of their birth , whether they be gay, AS sydrome, jewish, or whatever is a hate criminal. The "christain right" is a religion for hate criminals and bigots, they could easily turn on the Aspergers comunity, which, given that they run america, is a nasty prospect. Luckily aspergers is a relatively obscure phenomon, so they should be too thick to mount a major campaign, for the most part.
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Postby Young Juche » Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:00 am

Try this link, those guys ar real nuts!

http://www.reandev.com/taliban/
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