Stop with the NT's and us mentality.

I've been told that I do have some apsergers traits, though not fullblown AS.

My issues surrounding me are more likely based on my personality, which seems to be somewhat disordered.

When I look on the AS forum, I do see a lot of posts where some of you guys with AS tend to view yourselves as a different species. You seem to put yourselves in a little box, where you have AS and they're the NT's. You're not doing yourself any favours with this type of view in life, and you'd be better off to try and forget about having AS the best you can and just live life like everyone else.

There's no good AS and bad NT's, there's good and bad in both, but some of you seem to think that all NT's are cruel, the truth is, their not cruel, they just don't understand some of the behaviours and rituals that a lot of people with AS have.

Just think you need to stop with that type of mentality, a 1000 years ago none of these labels existed, who's to say in a 100 years time they won't exist either?

If we were NT we would not be Aspie, I'm not sure I see why you are complaining. I've advocated several times on these boards that people with Aspergers can go bad. Really bad.

morning star wrote: you'd be better off to try and forget about having AS the best you can and just live life like everyone else

If it really was that simple then AS wouldn't exist at all would it?
I do agree though that the whole us Vs them attitude that a very small number seem to display isn't helpful. Thankfully I've not seen much evidence of that on this particular forum

gothic_mummy wrote:

morning star wrote: you'd be better off to try and forget about having AS the best you can and just live life like everyone else

If it really was that simple then AS wouldn't exist at all would it?

No it exists, but you know what, some people having to spend the rest of their lives in a wheelchair. You just have to get on with life.

morning star wrote:No it exists, but you know what, some people having to spend the rest of their lives in a wheelchair. You just have to get on with life.

Yeah, you should just get up and walk on.

No wai-

Why would you post such a provocative comment? One thing I have noticed on this forum is absence of AS superiority and arrogance, try reading some of Chucky's replies.

Some of us here are in my opinion overly harsh on their brethren AS who falter in life and make no excuses for them.

Are you confusing this forum with Wrong planet? I have have seen this type of thinking there by some and they appear quite bitter, arrogant and presume they are superior. They also believe they are a positive step in evolution. Believe this type of thinking is a protective mechanism to ease their anxiety and low self worth. Many people with an ASD have suffered terribly at the hands of non-ASDs who bully, tease, victimise, reject, physical and emotional abuse, even tortured because they are so different and vulnerable. At times I would object to their negative comments regarding NTs and life when a newly diagnosed member posted for the first time. They quickly fall to pieces and reveal how fragile they are after a couple of comments. I know longer bother as it serves to positve purpose and only causes distress to these individuals. If by thinking this way it gives them comfort and less anxiety I have no issue with them.

You should also be aware there are varying degrees of cognitive functioning in people with an ASD and some just can't get up and walk in life. Let us have our forum where we can discuss issues that concern us and yes, we may say inappropriate comment at times. Where better to falter then an AS forum. You are judging and airing a certain superior demeanour people on this forum with limited knowledge and all you have succeded in accomplishing is offending good people.

lacking fundamental tools prevents me from living life like everyone else. for me, i just come here for maybe handy tips and advice ,so i might once be able to have a taste of what that is...'like everyone else'. like everyone else, is that some kind of goal?
i just want to live my life with fulfillment and wipe away some obstructions that prevent me from enjoying it to the fullest.

The fact that you would come into an Asperger's forum and put people with Asperger's down does show that you have some personality flaws, I won't argue there.
We all have our ways of coping. Better off forgetting you have Asperger's?! I am sorry, but, in my opinion, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
Equating it to a person in a wheel chair - yes, it's better to think of yourself as normal and forget that you have some type of disability, but what happens when you go into a building that only has stairs? A bit hard to forget then, I'd say. It blocks you off from some of the things that the mainstream public get to do - much like Asperger's, but not in such a physical sense.
I could go on more, but I just don't think you have any clue what it's like, just as I have no clue what's it's like to have the ability to go into a forum and say rude things about the people representing that forum community. Just because you have some Asperger's traits doesn't mean you have Asperger's.
Sure, saying "us" or "them" or the ideas behind them may seem secular, but for most of us, we have gone through our entire lives knowing that we are unlike everyone else, some of us not even knowing why that was until recently. It is like finding a group of people like you, when you never thought it possible. For me, I don't think of "us" as a term referring to a group of people with Asperger's, I am referring to this group of friends that I have an uncommon amount of similarities with. When I think of myself, I don't think of a disabled person, I don't think, "Oh, Asperger's is who I am." - I think of a unique person, just as everyone is unique, only in different ways - and I think most people on this forum would agree.

Calling NT's and aspies the same because they are human is like calling a Mastiff and a Schnauzer the same thing because they're a dog. Yes, they both have hair, yes they both have four legs and a tail, yes they can interbreed and produce fertile offspring. But the same? Hardly. The differences aren't even caused by an injury, or something superficial, like your example of a person in a wheelchair. They're caused by a genetic mutation, and emotional/cognitive experiences in life. The combination creates someone who is fundamentally different in thinking, attitude, and emotion than the neuro-typical Homo sapien. And when unguided, and ignorant of their condition, it normally further harms them as they do not understand, nor do those around them. When understood and worked on however, it's adverse effects can be minimized to some degree, sometimes even to the point of outward appearance of normalcy. But it's an appearance, an Aspie will still think like an Aspie, and will still be an Aspie.

First of all I never put anybody down, and secondly I never said all of you have a black and white thinking in regards to yourselves and NT's. I have seen a quite a few comments on here by some , where there's definately a view that all NT's are cruel etc...