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Improvements to speech

Postby ogr » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:25 am

My speech is just about okay typing, I don't know the right words for many things so I make words up that are as close to as possible as the real/correct wording. In spoken language my speech is what my sister calls broken up riddles and they often have to work hard by what I mean, try to teach me the correct words.

Let's say we are having a text conversation via whatsapp and we don't talk about something for a while, days after stating something, like can you help me next week after Christmas. I then say something like how do I do this on Facebook for an example... do you think I mean check or answer me now, as I do mean to check after or answer me next week after Christmas. I can tell people who I do this too find it very hard and annoying. They constantly tell me to think more, I do try.

People are getting fed up guessing what I am trying to say, I also make up words for things that I don't know the real name, by the action required for a task or if the word I do know but can't say it right. This stops me from stimming as much.

One word I made up, for an example is tug. I will explain what it is, and why I call it tug.
Tug is a duvet, I can't pronounce duvet very well, I can say it almost normally correct now, but couldn't when even a few years ago. Tug means the warmth of the said duvet, as it's close to tog, you tug yourself into bed (I couldn't remember the actual word, which is tuck. You also tug on the bedsheets to make the bed.

I don't talk in full sentences as words very hard for me to think and talk, it either comes out slow, taking pauses to thinking and worrying what people think it's as if I have , and if they understand me. It is almost like havind de-
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby Holodeck » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:32 am

I'm wondering if you might benefit from an audio recording of random English words.

I don't have Asperger's, but have had speech issues all my life where I forget words. Something that helped me was I'd do something I enjoyed while listening to a language CD. I'd hear the English then the other language. Words I heard from that have stuck with me better throughout the years.

No clue if it'll help, but figured I'd mention it. I know it's beyond frustrating. Good luck!
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby shock_the_monkey » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:10 am

stephen hawking has a machine that generates spoken words. i know that this sounds extreme, however, given that you're better at written, rather than spoken, english, some sort of similar machine might be helpful to you.
something knocked me out' the trees
now i'm on my knees
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

there is one thing you must be sure of
i can't take any more
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

don't like it but i guess i'm learning

... shock the monkey to life
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby ogr » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:41 pm

Holodeck wrote:I'm wondering if you might benefit from an audio recording of random English words.

I don't have Asperger's, but have had speech issues all my life where I forget words. Something that helped me was I'd do something I enjoyed while listening to a language CD. I'd hear the English then the other language. Words I heard from that have stuck with me better throughout the years.

No clue if it'll help, but figured I'd mention it. I know it's beyond frustrating. Good luck!


I think due to my speech I am diagnosed with mid range functioning autism, not classic Asperger's, I never thought about getting an audio recording of words before, would this help with my pronouncing and use of correct words to say?

shock_the_monkey wrote:stephen hawking has a machine that generates spoken words. i know that this sounds extreme, however, given that you're better at written, rather than spoken, english, some sort of similar machine might be helpful to you.


I can speak, I just have to really think things through before hand, not like typing where I just flow. I tend to make up words instead of saying things like thingy as many people tend to do. It's this I need to improve as people don't know what I am trying to say.

I saw many speech therapists, many said I need surgery on my tongue to help pronounce words. This was before diagnosis. I used to say a few words as a child, never in sentences until I was at least 5, even now my sentences are not "full" but I can communicate and talk, I just find it very hard.
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby Holodeck » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:21 pm

ogr wrote:I think due to my speech I am diagnosed with mid range functioning autism, not classic Asperger's, I never thought about getting an audio recording of words before, would this help with my pronouncing and use of correct words to say?

I can speak, I just have to really think things through before hand, not like typing where I just flow. I tend to make up words instead of saying things like thingy as many people tend to do. It's this I need to improve as people don't know what I am trying to say.

I saw many speech therapists, many said I need surgery on my tongue to help pronounce words. This was before diagnosis. I used to say a few words as a child, never in sentences until I was at least 5, even now my sentences are not "full" but I can communicate and talk, I just find it very hard.


If I understand correctly it seems like you think somewhat abstractly. Like you don't think the word, but more picture it or the feeling of it (however you want to say that).

I think the audio recordings won't hurt to try. It'll take some time either way, and yo'll have to use them for quite some time before you see improvement. I don't have your specific condition, but it helped with my situation.
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby ogr » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:48 pm

I guess you can call it abstractly thinking, it is more like this example: let's say you know nothing about cars like I do, your car has a problem, you have no idea what it is, or the correct names. Instead of saying things like thingy, I use a word that makes sense to me, (looking at this https://goo.gl/images/cmf94M )

The big wheel thing (I think it's called a clock...) I would say the big teeth wheel in the engine is wobbly.

Would audio help match names of things to each item? There is a robot in Japan who probably knows more words and can describe things better than I can.

-- Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:48 pm --

I guess you can call it abstractly thinking, it is more like this example: let's say you know nothing about cars like I do, your car has a problem, you have no idea what it is, or the correct names. Instead of saying things like thingy, I use a word that makes sense to me, (looking at this https://goo.gl/images/cmf94M )

The big wheel thing (I think it's called a clock...) I would say the big teeth wheel in the engine is wobbly.

Would audio help match names of things to each item? There is a robot in Japan who probably knows more words and can describe things better than I can.
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby Holodeck » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:01 pm

ogr wrote:I guess you can call it abstractly thinking, it is more like this example: let's say you know nothing about cars like I do, your car has a problem, you have no idea what it is, or the correct names. Instead of saying things like thingy, I use a word that makes sense to me, (looking at this https://goo.gl/images/cmf94M )

The big wheel thing (I think it's called a clock...) I would say the big teeth wheel in the engine is wobbly.


I do something like that. For instance I might forget how to say grass one day randomly, so instead say "Oh what's it called? You mow it. It's green." till someone fills in the word.

Would audio help match names of things to each item?


Usually they come with books so you can really get a grip on the word better. I think it can help.

There is a robot in Japan who probably knows more words and can describe things better than I can.


Most robots are better than most humans. Chances are their programmers don't have the memory to get the thought they need as quickly as a robot can access. I get what you mean though.
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby ogr » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:44 pm

Do you call the names by a name that makes sense to you? Even though you know it's the wrong word.

If I say I need a new 10.5 tug, people who love and know me well, know I mean a duvet with 10.5 tog ratings. I know it's a duvet with 10.5 tog, but that's too much to say and I will get "toung twisted".

My family find it cute, especially when I was little, but finding it annoying now after 29 years we'll not quite of me making things up.

Here is the video of the robot.

https://youtu.be/QfPkHU_36Cs
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby shock_the_monkey » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:46 pm

ogr wrote:
shock_the_monkey wrote:stephen hawking has a machine that generates spoken words. i know that this sounds extreme, however, given that you're better at written, rather than spoken, english, some sort of similar machine might be helpful to you.


I can speak, I just have to really think things through before hand, not like typing where I just flow. I tend to make up words instead of saying things like thingy as many people tend to do. It's this I need to improve as people don't know what I am trying to say.

I saw many speech therapists, many said I need surgery on my tongue to help pronounce words. This was before diagnosis. I used to say a few words as a child, never in sentences until I was at least 5, even now my sentences are not "full" but I can communicate and talk, I just find it very hard.

... i'm not trying to imply that you can't speak. i'm merely pointing out that if you express yourself better in writing, it might be more effective to let the speaking be done by a machine. however, if that doesn't appeal, perhaps you should write down what you want to say and then read it.
something knocked me out' the trees
now i'm on my knees
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

there is one thing you must be sure of
i can't take any more
... don't you know you're gonna shock the monkey

don't like it but i guess i'm learning

... shock the monkey to life
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Re: Improvements to speech

Postby ogr » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:58 pm

I know it sounds like excuses but I am also dyslexic so I would still say things wrongly.

I just advoid talking to strangers.

But improvements to my speech would help not annoy my sisters. So I am going to try and speak more sentences.

Oh I also don't speak in complete sentences, which I really need help in, I do this via typing too. Example is, my mum was in hospital after kidney surgery - all went well but my mum was feeling a little ill. I told my sisters (one was working, (she's a paramedic) other was on a date with her boyfriend) that she wasn't feeling well in a way the sister that was working told work her mum was near death, and my other sister left her date night early both rushed into hospital - all that was wrong was a little sleepy from anesthesia. I felt so bad, and both had a massive shouting session at me with a big lecturer.
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