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Why can aspies tell "non-verbal cues" via typing and online?

Postby SauronineKnight » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:25 pm

I cannot understand this. People with asperger syndrome I met on the internet often can easily tell if someone is quite angry or someone is suffering under depression in internet forum posts and private chat room and messengers such as Skype. To the point they can even tell different users who post similar, if not the exact same post that one is angry and one is feeling sad.

How come they have such intuition in online communication but cannot tell a change in tone or hat someone is posing showing off his muscles in his arm to show he's getting ready to get violent? I mean with how they can tell that is almost like a psychic in a private message how someone else feels, you'd think they'd be masters at reading people's cues in face to face conversations!

However most NTs (such as myself) cannot TELL the non-direct verbal cues in internet communication (including sound communications such as VoIP and camera video conversations)! Even though in face-to-face conversations NTs can tell the way someone's mouth moves indicate nervousness, etc. What is the logic in this? If NT's have difficulty in in video communication (which shows some facial cues and tone of voice) getting the full grasp of the other person's intent, emotions, and such, why can aspies tell the cues in internet communication! Despite aspies sucking in real life conversations while ironically NTs do well?
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Re: Why can aspies tell "non-verbal cues" via typing and online?

Postby Holodeck » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:17 pm

I don't, but my boyfriend has aspberger's. He's very sociable and can do this for the most part off and online. He's actually very odd about how well he can read certain non-verbal communications (his job is as a general manager and he's in the top sales-wise, and has been for years), however he does get it wrong too from time to time he'll come at me telling me what happened. I'll ask if they did something (I'll list off non-verbal reactions) then he'll respond, and I'll explain what it meant.

This can be especially difficult when he's in a good mood (he's a narcissist too, so often he'll assume people feel whatever he wants them to feel hah).

Example:

Me: Stop talking about that or you'll annoy them.

Him: Naw they love it.

Me: You see how they're gritting their teeth? That equals drop the subject.

Him: I should probably stop talking.

Me: Yup.

My guess is there's less stimulus on forums than offline, and they may notice the hint through the way the person is typing. Not sure why some can/can't though.
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Re: Why can aspies tell "non-verbal cues" via typing and online?

Postby SauronineKnight » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:39 pm

Holodeck wrote:I don't, but my boyfriend has aspberger's. He's very sociable and can do this for the most part off and online. He's actually very odd about how well he can read certain non-verbal communications (his job is as a general manager and he's in the top sales-wise, and has been for years), however he does get it wrong too from time to time he'll come at me telling me what happened. I'll ask if they did something (I'll list off non-verbal reactions) then he'll respond, and I'll explain what it meant.

This can be especially difficult when he's in a good mood (he's a narcissist too, so often he'll assume people feel whatever he wants them to feel hah).

Example:

Me: Stop talking about that or you'll annoy them.

Him: Naw they love it.

Me: You see how they're gritting their teeth? That equals drop the subject.

Him: I should probably stop talking.

Me: Yup.

My guess is there's less stimulus on forums than offline, and they may notice the hint through the way the person is typing. Not sure why some can/can't though.


How come with NTs, its the opposite? I was diagnosed as NT and a problem I have is I can't tell uf people are angry online,etc. Its common for NTs (who normally don't use the internet aside from maybe Facebook, education, and work) to have difficulty in online communication even if the slick irl if the just signed up for a forum the first time. Which is why I asked this question.
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Re: Why can aspies tell "non-verbal cues" via typing and online?

Postby Holodeck » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:06 am

Ok, so waited for my guy to get home to respond.

He is NT (my bad for not getting that put out there correctly. We actually only recently found out within the last year, so yay for learning new terms!) If a person says something quickly or types like they're in a rush (spelling mistakes when they don't normally have them for instance), he assumes they're either excited or frustrated. If it's slower than normal, he thinks they're likely careful, guarded, or trying to get it right because they're on the defensive.

He said it depends on the density on the text (depending on the person, they can either be calm, or feeling the need to include all of the info) also apparently he can tell by my emoji's. I have now learned that I apparently make more winky-faced emoji's when stressed...well ok then hah. ^_~;

Hope that helps.
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Re: Why can aspies tell "non-verbal cues" via typing and online?

Postby Holodeck » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:28 am

Sorry for double posting, but as you likely figured I misread about NT's. Everything else I said holds true, but he's an aspie, not an NT. *Sigh been a long day. Apologies for any confusion. Carry on.
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Re: Why can aspies tell "non-verbal cues" via typing and online?

Postby AmberCat » Mon May 01, 2017 7:33 pm

For me, it is because there is more of a social equal playing field online when it comes to non verbal cues.

In real life, NT people can tell someone's emotions by tone of voice, body language, facial expression, but people on the autistic spectrum find it harder to do so.

On the internet, nobody has body language and all of this stuff is stripped away. All everyone goes on is text, so if someone really wants to show how they feel, they make it clearer in their writing, making it a lot easier for autistic people to analyse.

Speech is also harder for me to understand than writing (especially if its in a distracting place), and once its been said, its gone. When reading text, you can reread it over and over again and analyse all the small details to work out what it means. Same with replying, you can go over it again and again, to make sure everything sounds correctly, and nobody will see it until you hit send, but with speaking, its live.
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