AS and Drugs

Are certain drugs particularly bad for people with AS? Such as LSD, alchohol, mushrooms, weed, etc. What are the typical affects for people with AS and should AS people avoid some drugs more than NT people?

Just curious.

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: self medicating

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As a youth i exhibited severe symptoms, then at about 15 yrs old i started triping acid, It took years of ego deconstruction and self examination, and a few smart loving freinds that were able to convey to me some of the empathetic skills i needed to thrive in short term social settings.

I had to go headlong into insecurity in order to develop the self acceptence i needed in order to practice genuine vulnerability, I believe that all peoples lives are defined by their feelings about vulnerability, it is perceived by all on an intuitive level as either a positive, or a negative. Embracing vulnerability has granted me some very valuable tools.

i still have a very difficult time in long term relationships as my proclivity toward obbseive interest is very much intact, and does not always include my would be spouse, but hell, who dosent have trouble maintaining long term relationships. i have had however the fortune to have lost love time and again. and i think that for me, considering the severity from whence i came, it is an accomplishement of its own.

i myself am as such a big fan of self medicating this condition is a preceptual lens and tweaking that lens a little bit has served me well, i dont advocate my path to others necessarly, i had a lot of special circumstance and timing surrounding my "acid wash" however i am thankfull for the path i found and am far less judgemental about the paths others choose.

I would just like to say that using these drugs is illegal. This is simply a reminder however and I have no authority to take action.

Out of all the drugs you could use why the hell are you gonna do acid? That stuff really screws you up permanently. If you're going do drugs go with something like heroin, while it is extremely addictive, the long-term negative affects are miniscule.

I was half-joking. All drugs will mess you up to a certain degree. I care at least marginally about my mental health.

meinsla wrote:I was half-joking. All drugs will mess you up to a certain degree. I care at least marginally about my mental health.

Don't joke with heroin. It's a killer, it killed two friends of mine.

I've been in a drug scene for quite some time (I left there with still a marihuana addiction). It's easy for me to roam around there, especially when you learn yourself patterns of behaviour : most drug addicts don't care and don't interact that much, and are pretty predictable once you know which drug they take.

But the other side of the medal is clearly indicated in all the studies around drugs, addiction etc. : bye bye social life in the long run. So ask yourself the question : do I really want to change my very small social life for a semi-social life with distorted people that are mentally in a worse condition than I am when sober, with the risk of ending up in the same misery they are in?

I checked, I thought about it, and I decided just in time that my answer is no.

i've recently realized i've AS (either that or im an indigo), and my experience with drugs was not an easy road due to my addictive nature... what saved me was really myself, my patience and a lot of Thaoist theories that i tought myself after that...

with weed i started out of curiosity, not wanting to learn how to roll up a joint, just to have the security of depending to be with other ppl to do it and not to fall in to deep.. problem was that eventually was allways people around and when fears and self confidence issues began to take hold, i found my self skiping two months of morning classes at school and a depression. i got myself of that road, but depression off, i was still smoking every day, the people i hanged out with were all about the drugs, so was i becoming interested in various drugs and effects.

starting doing E, and on a day bevore new year, i took 2,3,4,5 pills and about the time the 5th finally trigered the other 4, i was a mad dog with my theet locked, making a fool of myselfwith 20 people around that i knew, they called in a friend of mine that took me out of there to the back of a building, and i was asking if he had one more, he refused to give me any, and calmed me down. i was calm but the feeling of paranoia of everyone talking about me took me home. what i did? got a tall glass of J&B and took 8 more. the next day i couldn't feel my mouth and i didnt went out on new years this led me to the next two moths i descrived with weed.
but before that i decided to go to a big concert abroad in the next summer on my own i was then 18, that resolution got me out the depression i talked about too, but nothing took me out of drugs.

in that concert i was so excited that i took with me 10grms of mdma, for me and for selling to pay whatever was needed,
the first night the concert started i was smoking weed all day, i also bought a bottle of vodka, and it was weed 1ltvodka and 1gr of mdma in 3-4hours, allways dancing whenever i fell down i rolled up one more, take a sip, and another E-bomb, before the end of the second act, i've made a fool of myself hitting on any beauty i saw, vomiting on the dancefloor and my tshirt, to the point that when i went to the bar, the bartender asked me if i wasn't going to sleep or at least trade the shirt, f*ck that more dancing for me, at last i ended up in the grass people passing by asking if i was ok, said yes and fell assleep or passed out, woke up in the chill tent not nowing how i got there, probably dragged by some kind souls... got up drove my self back to my tent, the neighbours were smoking, they passed me the weed and the moment i've smoked i passed the pipe back spinned and fell to the floor, with everybody asking if i was ok i said yes crawled my self to my tent, and in a place where you heard the 4beat music all over the camp, i could only ear my heart beating louder and faster... that was it i had OD, i was abroad alone with no mobile phone, dead was there... passed out...
woke up at night... and i took a walk within my mind realising how stupid i've been at my first concert, later i realised i got soilled the party to whoever saw me and those who helped me that night before... so i decided to took it easy, but carried on the drugs, that night i danced wit my eyes closed till morning woke up dancing hard in the mud rainning, when this girl smashed on coke asked one by one for one more dose, till she got to me, i awser negative but her looks her atitude freaked me out, so i gave the few mdma that i had to somebody else around, and went out to my tent, to sober up...
i wasnt doing lsd yet so that was my own looking trough alice's mirror, i had to see the girls condition to get me some reasoning, and really scared of doing massive quantities of E like that,

but i found out later on that if that vodka was iced-fresh and with some apple mixed, i can do that again no problem without that kind of result, but no ice drink or water, and i dont even get near 1/8gr

with lsd i just realised i cant be with people around, or the paranoia someday would be too high on my brain, and mixing that with agoraphobia,and a crowd, i figure was a question of time till i flipped and started attacking someone around, later i figured out that E calms those paranoia feelings, but still i think that beein in a crow, half dose and E or speed, otherwise i dont risk it,

mushrooms on the other hand dont start paranoia at least for me, its kind of a wave of feelings and hallucinations really soft, like it was a little E+lsd combined.

i tried coke, never liked it or desliked it, its irelevant for me as an interesting effect, i found none

after all these experiences i learned that i can do drugs, softly with no rush or hurry, if there's an opportunity and i feel like it, then good, but i dont rush to the street buying even a couple of joints, and if some friends can be with all the dope offering it but normally i m really not in the mood for it, when i want it i get it...
of course if they pass a joint i wont say no.

it was a bumpy ride, not the hardest one, that someone can get but enhough, to put me on the right path, even last year i was smoking everyday, but now that i'm doing my portfolio and been high on that i haven't smoked a joint for a month and its been two months that i havent bought one,



and no stress.... i have all the time in the world


sorry for the long post, hope it help get some insight and some reasoning in another person

remember... dont hurry you got time like an ant has space