fear and lies

a big part of lies is selfprotection fear and selfdeseption
the truth is an attack on annyone who cannot handle it
Oscar Wilde — ‘If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh

now my question is why can aspies handle the truth?
(as for myself i'm a predator and it all data will make me a better hunter that's my theory on that + the lack of empathy gives me an outside prespective on that)
is it that with aspies the outside prespective?

aspies don't feel things as NTs do. consequently, the truth isn't seen by them quite so much as an assault on their personal identity.

ofc i think the "textbook" answer is they don't understand it (correct me if i'm wrong)
but i think there's perhaps more
it's just a fishing expedition and a thinking excersise

it's not that they don't understand lies, it's that they are more likely than not an anathema to them.

I'm not diagnosed, but I have a strong belief that I have Aspergers.

I'm a compulsive liar.

I lie about everything that I believe it will benefit me or deceive the listener to think that I have some type of personality.

It is impressive how fast that I can make up lies and take care of details to pass a more convincing lie.

Although the poor or lack of facial expressions can be an obstacle for me, I rarely get caught in a lie.

greatguy wrote:I'm not diagnosed, but I have a strong belief that I have Aspergers.

I'm a compulsive liar.

I lie about everything that I believe it will benefit me or deceive the listener to think that I have some type of personality.

It is impressive how fast that I can make up lies and take care of details to pass a more convincing lie.

Although the poor or lack of facial expressions can be an obstacle for me, I rarely get caught in a lie.

... i did say that you might have narcissistic and/or sociopathic traits.

shock_the_monkey wrote:

greatguy wrote:I'm not diagnosed, but I have a strong belief that I have Aspergers.

I'm a compulsive liar.

I lie about everything that I believe it will benefit me or deceive the listener to think that I have some type of personality.

It is impressive how fast that I can make up lies and take care of details to pass a more convincing lie.

Although the poor or lack of facial expressions can be an obstacle for me, I rarely get caught in a lie.

... i did say that you might have narcissistic and/or sociopathic traits.

I know, but I have felt some kind of empathy during my childhood/adolescence towards animals and emotionally/physically weak people, I relied too much on other's opinions too, so I think that I just have similar traits by "coincidence".

greatguy wrote:

shock_the_monkey wrote:

greatguy wrote:I know, but I have felt some kind of empathy during my childhood/adolescence towards animals and emotionally/physically weak people, I relied too much on other's opinions too, so I think that I just have similar traits by "coincidence".

... are you mirroring people? mirroring is a common autistic trait.

shock_the_monkey wrote:

greatguy wrote:

shock_the_monkey wrote:

... are you mirroring people? mirroring is a common autistic trait.

Hummm, interesting observation. I did notice that I mirror some characters from movies/series, specially if they have similar thoughts to my ideologies, people that I know usually don't have interesting traits that I consider "worth" to imitate.

One important fact that changed my attitudes:
At 17 I started trying to act like a regular person being in a emotional relationship, which I failed. I was in the relationship for 2 years and didn't even loved the girl. Lied a lot, cheated once and stayed with her just for sex and to look like a normal, responsible guy, she never found out. I never really liked her, couldn't have a real bond, but I acted like I did loved her very much. We broke up when it was too boring and I wasn't being able to continue pretending and we agreed to keep having sex after the brake up. Actually I was very surprised because she started another relationship a week or two after it.

It was kinda upsetting too, because I was counting to keep using her for sex and she deceived me to believe that she loved me so much that I had her under my control. I discovered that she lied to me almost as much I lied to her, she cheated me too.

That made me realize that I was wrong thinking to be "alone". I felt relieved and more free to be the monster that I thought I was. Before that I used to see "normal people" as innocent and honest (not always, of course), while I kept lying and manipulating.

It is like I was never being genuine when I felt empathy or did some altruism. Just did it because I was literally following what people kept telling everywhere. It was kinda like: "Be nice and the world/God will repay with love, money and sex."

Although my thoughts may be resemblant with ASPD, my childhood don't have indicators of, actually I was more of a innocent, harmless kid, similar to an Aspergers one, but not entirely genuine.

I hate liars. I dislike those who lie, I hate those who lie about me more than those who lie to me. I am normally very good at determining a liar when face to face with them. I learnt it from an unfortunate relationship I had in my 20's with a sociopath (obviously didn't know he was when I met him) who was the best liar I ever met and still ever known some 20 years later.

I myself am very honest. It's not a great attribute to have. Sometimes I feel like Jim Carrey in Liar Liar. I have to tell the truth. I used to be when young capable of a white lie, even though I was always an inately honest person, but since that time in my life where I was a honest person who was not believed by 99% of the people I knew and who had known me for years, over this man who was lying and seemed more plausible (still bitter!) I made a promise to myself that I would not lie at all. That means being brutally honest. That way noone close to me would ever not believe me in future again.

But in general I am instinctively a non-liar. I was never very good with the white lies and didn't really understand the purpose of them. I always thought if you do something you think you should then you should have the balls to admit to it.