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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby TDT » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:37 pm

I'm not sure how likely it is that aspie-ness, shy, or rude, can be detected from an email message. Perhaps "rude", but I'm not sure about the rest.

My emails, my posts here even, tend to be very formal. It's kinda how i normally write. I'm not sure that really tells anyone anything, except that I'm formal in my writing. Maybe I'm not reading into this enough.
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby ireneadler999 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:16 pm

TDT wrote:I'm not sure how likely it is that aspie-ness, shy, or rude, can be detected from an email message. Perhaps "rude", but I'm not sure about the rest.

My emails, my posts here even, tend to be very formal. It's kinda how i normally write. I'm not sure that really tells anyone anything, except that I'm formal in my writing. Maybe I'm not reading into this enough.


mostly, you seem helpful imo.

people usually say i'm quiet or shy or aloof or sensitive or 'spacey.' sometimes i get into huge trouble for something that wasn't intended to cause trouble. i suppose that's the same thing as being called 'rude.'
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby MeELC » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:58 pm

I haven't been called rude, as far as I know. I don't think I've been called shy to my face either, but I know I am. I suck at networking and small talk. But once someone talks to me and gets a conversation going, I'm not too bad. But I'm much better with one-on-one conversations than trying to integrate a group conversation, unless it's with close friends (I have some of those!) or on a topic that I know a lot about. But then it feels more like I'm teaching than chatting.

I think some people might think I'm rude because sometimes I forget basic curtesies, even though in theory I know about them, it's just that in the flow of the conversations and events, sometimes they skip my mind. Also, the lack of eye contact is kind of rude, I suppose. Although usually I can concentrate on making eye contact (but when I do I miss some of the conversation).
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby slugger » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:34 pm

MeELC wrote:I haven't been called rude, as far as I know. I don't think I've been called shy to my face either, but I know I am. I suck at networking and small talk. But once someone talks to me and gets a conversation going, I'm not too bad. But I'm much better with one-on-one conversations than trying to integrate a group conversation, unless it's with close friends (I have some of those!) or on a topic that I know a lot about. But then it feels more like I'm teaching than chatting.

I think some people might think I'm rude because sometimes I forget basic curtesies, even though in theory I know about them, it's just that in the flow of the conversations and events, sometimes they skip my mind. Also, the lack of eye contact is kind of rude, I suppose. Although usually I can concentrate on making eye contact (but when I do I miss some of the conversation).


Ditto this! I was always called shy when I was young (well it was quite true), but people have always said I'm very nice. I've had a few people say they thought I was "standoffish" until they knew me, until they found out I'm just quiet. But I have done (or not done) things like neglect to call my mother-in-law after her daughter passed away, things like that. Fortunately my husband knows my limitations and lets me know when I need to fill some social expectation or other!
Maybe it's because I was so shy that I was never considered rude. It seems that if people can tell that the reason you're not talking is because you're shy, they tend to be understanding about that. But if your reason is because you're not into chit-chatting then you're considered rude. Yeah, that's society for you!
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby AspMOMof1 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:49 am

madmanson wrote:One of my close friends has recently nick named me 'mouse' because of my lack of communication. I have been called shy my whole life.

It's not like I have things to say whilst in a social group and can't say them for whatever the reason is shy people can't talk. It's just that I don't have anything to say. Conversations move too fast for me to think of anything to add in. And if I am not interested in the conversation (which is 90% of the time) than my brain just feels like a black hollow space with no words to add.

Even worse is when people call me rude. Or when people tell me I need to work on my social skills.

My partner keeps telling me that his friends don't understand why I am so rude, so quiet. I am just so sick of people pointing it out to me. When I am out I try so damn hard to talk with people, but it's never good enough.

"Why are you so quite all the time"
"Do you not like me?"
"You're very shy"
"What's wrong?"
"Smile" I have had so many random people at pubs and shopping centres telling me to smile when I am on my own. I don't get it, I mean, you don't see anyone else smiling 24 hours like there is something wrong with them. I will smile when I am talking to someone, but when my friends nick off to the toilet or to grab a drink, I am not going to sit there on my own and have a smile on my face like I am crazy or something.
"Talk"
"You need to talk more"
"I'm going to get you drunk so you will talk more" --- it does work.

Telling people I have Aspergers is no help what so ever. They don't know what it is, or don't know anything about it, they don't care to know any thing about it, they can't relate it in any way to social problems, and/or just assume I am mentally retarded. Some people then decide to treat me like I am Google. I am not smart and when I don't know the answer to a question they get confused, "are you sure you have Aspergers?"

As a lot of you already feel, small talk and medial chit-chat just makes me go insane inside. I don't understand how people can just come up with any conversation at any time. How they're so good at improvising things to say. How talking about coffee or clothing for half an hour interests them.

Recently I have thought about writing a script of things to talk about, and memorise them. I've heard that Robin Williams needs a script for almost all social events to help him seem normal, and I thought it might be a good idea. That way when someone I see quite often asks me "how have you been," I can start a conversation instead of just mindlessly staring at them for ten seconds before I come up with "good, and you?" Or when a shop keeper asks how the weather is outside, I can reply instead of looking out side to remind myself what the weather is like, if that makes sense?

I am also called cute a lot of the times. People call me cute when I try to dance with them at a night club so I can fit in, or sometimes when I am just talking. "Aww, you're so cute." I don't know what I have done different to appear cute.

Most weekends I prefer to stay home and have alone time. I like to read, write, build websites, learn things, watch my favourite TV shows, read, think and sometimes do nothing and just re-chard from a day of socialising at work. But there are some weekends where I do want social interaction. I do get lonely, but it's hard. I have to be quite drunk to feel comfortable at parties and BBQs.

What about you guys?



Personally, I don't think you should change a thing... I don't think there is anything wrong with your behavior. Honestly, I don't smile at air, either. If someone ask me "How are you doing?", I will say fine and tell them a bit about what I've been up to and then I throw the question back in their court. " And how are you?". Truth be told they probably think I am self-centered and talk to much about myself when I make small talk. If you are concerned about it, then I would suggest you answer their question with something simple like - "I'm fine and how are you doing?" They will probably love telling you all about what they've been up to. If they don't start the conversation from there... then they're in the same position you're in, and the conversation will fall flat. At that point, the lack of small talk can't be blamed on you.

You just can't please everyone. So, it's best to please yourself. If you're happy with yourself, then I wouldn't worry about the judgments of others. Believe me, they are saying the same kinds of things about NT's, only worse, because we talk a lot and give them a lot of material to work with. :)
I think cute is a compliment. I wouldn't worry too much about it. You're probably cute.
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby Randomnosity » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:16 am

In my case, it's more like "Why don't you smile? You always look pissed!"
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby Luvomz89 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:48 am

Yes, definitely. The story of my life. I somewhat understand why they would be so curious as to why i dont talk but at the same time its obvious most of the time i just want to be left alone and not have to answer such strange questions. The worst part for me is not knowing what to say in response. I want to be able to respond with a good reason. I often ask myself the same questions. Why dont I talk? I like to think I dont exist sometimes but when someone asks me a question like this it makes me realize that i do and my flaws are visible. I feel broken like some defective toy in a factory. I simply just want to be fixed.
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby treajay » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:35 am

I can relate. I've often been called "snob". Also more nicely: shy, and quiet. People always tell me to "smile". They try to make me talk, and try to make me smile which just makes me uncomfortable and I clam up and don't talk or smile.. awkward. For some reason they think I'm a snob; like I don't wanna talk to them, they don't understand the turmoil I am going through. :?
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby blonde1 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:21 pm

i learned so much from watching talk show hosts and reading books.

When experiencing social anxiety I can get through it if I can calm down enough to remember, "I'm a female johnny carson and it's all about the guest celebrity." :wink:

Everyone's favorite topic is themself. When forced into small talk, I repeat back what the person has said, smile, nod, laugh, and ask cliche questions about them.

I feel like a trained parrot but it gets me through. The trick is to remember not to think, just pretend you're the talk show host.
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Re: Are you constantly being called shy or rude?

Postby AprilR » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:40 pm

I was always called shy when i was a child but didn't really get why that was an issue for people :? I guess i thought i'd only bore them if i talked and they seemed to not have any interest in anything i would say so i considered it natural to keep quiet in most situations.
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