The 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video

OneRinger wrote:So on the day of the murder, he would do his thing, edit a video, post the body parts in the mail, get rid of the torso and flee to Paris. Busy day on May 25th. I guess it is possible, but hard to believe.

This is not my field of expertise, however, would the mailing of the body parts to parliament match the psychological profile of the individual?

He might have very well have been able to escape the attention of the authorities if items were not mailed to parliament. However, it could have also been an attempt to amplify or promote the crime.

I have to wonder if there was an accomplice, who might have mailed the body parts out, or helped with the filming.

Not having the best intuitive judge of character, this Magnotta person seems as if they might be tough or used to abuse or prepared to deal with the consequences of the situation. Presumably the marketing aspect ties the crime to premeditated motives.

Would a narcissist want to deliver dismembered body parts to parliament? I mean did they really want to get caught, or is this crime a glimpse into a larger underworld where these acts are niche market hobbies of sorts? Perhaps he was ratted out. I mean the level of craft and potentially the business aspect of the situation either contradicts his intelligence for some sort of hatred felt towards themselves, or perhaps he was just ratted out?

It is more like a question. I am having difficulty understanding the motive behind crafting such a film, and altering federal authorities in the process. Would mailing the body parts to a high school, or a news station, or even hiding them in well travelled public venue make more sense?

Why did he send them to parliament? Such an odd choice, jmo...


Are there any other murderers with narcissistic personalities, which have gone to the length of trouble this person has to alert federal or local authorities directly?


Sure, I guess mailing dismembered body parts to government might sound the terrorist alarms and that might be some sort of humorous smoke screen attempt, but in reality, he's been marketing for weeks, if not months, he could have gained infamy without directly alerting the federal authorities. For example, Robert Pinkton.

Robert Pinkton was said to have confronted authorites directly, but it was in an attempt to prove his innocence and escape persecution, this guy, is looking to get caught, when everything about the film makes it appear like it was crafted to be a cheesy fake horror film.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, the whole mailing of body parts, to federal authorities, specifically.


I am absolutely speculating, but I think he got ratted out. Even while watching the video, it seems like there might be more than just one person behind the camera. Coughing, sneezing, not entirely sure.

Goddamnit, I meant to quote something off this post. not f*cking edit it.

Was the guy who was killed in the video asian?
I just got a funny result when I searched "ice pick" on google. There was also a hand if you look for more pics on google.

MrKap wrote:this guy, is looking to get caught, when everything about the film makes it appear like it was crafted to be a cheesy fake horror film.

I disagree. I don't think he's looking to get caught at all. His name has already been made public. He doesn't need to get caught to gain fame and that's obviously what he wants.

EmpathySucks wrote:Was the guy who was killed in the video asian?

No.


Edit: I misread your comment. He may have been Asian. I'm not sure though.

Demon wrote:

MrKap wrote:this guy, is looking to get caught, when everything about the film makes it appear like it was crafted to be a cheesy fake horror film.

I disagree. I don't think he's looking to get caught at all. His name has already been made public. He doesn't need to get caught to gain fame and that's obviously what he wants.

So basically he was attention whoring the entire time?

The guy in the video (version I've seen), is never actually "killed", there is a scene of a live subject, and a scene of a lifeless dead body/prop, and they're spliced together, but he does appear to be of an Eastern Asian descent.

Regarding the authenticity of the video, unfortunately I am not a biologist, but it is safe to say the materials in the film, appear to be extremely well crafted or real.

However I would be lying if I didn't suggest that at times I even thought the dog in the video was a puppet. That's how it can border on low quality at times.

I disagree. I don't think he's looking to get caught at all. His name has already been made public. He doesn't need to get caught to gain fame and that's obviously what he wants.

Mailing the body parts directly to the federal authorities wouldn't suggest much else except to get them involved directly. There are any number of organizations which could have received the items and produced a similar if not stronger promotional effect. His target audience would clearly not need any sort of promotion from federal authorities involvement.

So, I agree with you, the movie, the promotion, and the crime itself sort of hints at a desire to be mysterious, rather than blatantly stick out like a sore thumb. There might be a real obvious connection between sending body parts and increasing the chances of being caught by authorities, and that might be in the realm of common sense, not escaping the mindset of narcissistic filmmaker.

If he wants greater fame he will have to avoid capture and kill more people. Each kill will have to be made public in some way or another. The problem with that is, each time he kills he will be leaving a trail that will eventually get him caught. If he's as narcissistic as I believe then he is definitely going to kill again. One kill will not be satisfying.

It seems to have been removed now.

MrKap wrote:There might be a real obvious connection between sending body parts and increasing the chances of being caught by authorities, and that might be in the realm of common sense, not escaping the mindset of narcissistic filmmaker.

I've been thinking about this and it seems to me that it makes more sense to evade capture. What could he possibly gain from getting caught?

Demon wrote:

MrKap wrote:There might be a real obvious connection between sending body parts and increasing the chances of being caught by authorities, and that might be in the realm of common sense, not escaping the mindset of narcissistic filmmaker.

I've been thinking about this and it seems to me that it makes more sense to evade capture. What could he possibly gain from getting caught?

Another possibility is that he might have been trying to make a point, maybe political, who knows...
If he's mentally unstable it will be nearly impossible to work out what message he intended to send by both the video and the sending of parts. They could represent pretty much anything.