Of course it's traumatizing. Talking about it makes me feel that way. XD But I will swallow my disdain for a moment.
Being in a warm closed area close to a heartbeat then being put into a cold hospital room with bright lights and a bunch of people with little masks over their face sounds rather terrible.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by SpeckledUnicorn » Thu May 19, 2011 8:36 pm
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by crystal_richardson » Thu May 19, 2011 8:36 pm
marycarterpaint wrote:psychopathic tendencies are genetic and present from birth. However, the sadism is learned.
At first, I agreed with this. I was like, that makes sense. Genes/pre-birth external factors account for remorselessness and unemotionality while poor upbringing/deviant social conditioning accounts for the behavioural expression of the disorder: sadism. But then I thought, what about all those sadistic psychopaths that come from good families?
Could sadism be genetic too!?
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by Simon Attwood » Thu May 19, 2011 8:38 pm
disdain?
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by SpeckledUnicorn » Thu May 19, 2011 8:41 pm
I was sure disdain and disgust were the same thing.
I find the process of birth rather disgusting. I know, it's all how we enter the world and blah blah blah, but I still do.
I find the process of birth rather disgusting. I know, it's all how we enter the world and blah blah blah, but I still do.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by Simon Attwood » Thu May 19, 2011 8:43 pm
JPKAS wrote:.I find the process of birth rather disgusting.
for a woman, the gateway in to this world, through your vagina, that is worrisome
What about it makes you feel disgusted?
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by crystal_richardson » Thu May 19, 2011 8:49 pm
Simon Attwood wrote:crystal_richardson wrote: They say there is no evidence that abuse, negative circumstances, paps leaving...any of that is implicated in the genesis of psychopathy, that all that is needed for guiltlessness and lack of emotionality is present in the psychopath at birth. That means, the essence of psychopathy is either genetic or biological in origin (biological...as in like external factors from conception to birth, like what Simon Attwood was talking about).
Twisted, ever so slightly
periods from conception to birth can also experience "negative circumstance" (external factors). a pregnant mother who at any time during gestation suffers stress, passes on cortisol to the developing foetus through the umbilical cord. Cortisol stalls development in all areas, both physiologically and mentally. And cortisol, once it passes the blood brain barrier, damages brain cells. The blood brain barrier is weak in infants, and stress weakens it further. This fact so often gets overlooked in the argument for genetic/biological versus nurture debate.
I totally agree. That's why I made sure to mention it.
Simon Attwood wrote:Do you know what the most traumatic experience is for an infant? It's not neglect, sexual abuse, parental conflicts, abandonment. It's birth, birth is an incredibly traumatic experience for a baby. The most natural of processes through which we all enter this world.
Imagine for a moment, spending 9 months (9 months is an eternity to a foetus) getting to know your world, your environment. and then being thrust out in to a completely unknown world that you are not prepared for.
True...but if birth was implicated in the genesis of psychopathy wouldn't we all be psychopaths??
Maybe birth explains why we ARE all a little psychopathic...sometimes. lol.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by SpeckledUnicorn » Thu May 19, 2011 8:52 pm
It just is entirely repulsive to me. It's to the point where I don't even like being around pregnant women . I think the idea of being pregnant terrifies me. Something growing in you like a little parasite. uhg.
The gateway into this world. Ha. xD.
Yeah I don't think I should get into my dislike of pregnancy in this forum , though. If you really want to talk about it I think I should start a thread elswhere. I'm not sure where I should start it though. : S
This is about AsPD and the genetic link, after all.
The gateway into this world. Ha. xD.
Yeah I don't think I should get into my dislike of pregnancy in this forum , though. If you really want to talk about it I think I should start a thread elswhere. I'm not sure where I should start it though. : S
This is about AsPD and the genetic link, after all.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by Simon Attwood » Thu May 19, 2011 8:54 pm
JPKAS wrote:This is about AsPD and the genetic link, after all.
No, it's about Joan
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by SpeckledUnicorn » Thu May 19, 2011 8:56 pm
NO it's not XD! pft. I will drop the subject now. Dun dun dun. I'm not even sure I wanna talk about it anyway.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link
by Simon Attwood » Thu May 19, 2011 8:57 pm
JPKAS wrote: Dun dun dun.
Are you Captain Chaos?
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