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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby fiveintime » Thu May 19, 2011 8:02 am

jessicaborthwick wrote:most people picked Neglect, verbal/emotional abuse, AsPD/NPD parent

I think it's also worth considering that people with AsPD are a rather robust bunch, so of all people, they might have a higher threshold to what they consider "abuse."
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby jessicaborthwick » Thu May 19, 2011 8:07 am

Simon Attwood wrote: Try to think of it in not so black and white terms, but rather, numerous accumulative forks in the road. :)


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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby Comingoutofmyshell » Thu May 19, 2011 8:33 am

Demon wrote:Would you say your son is as defiant on medication as he is off it, or is it really only affecting the ADHD aspect of his personality?


Very much so, if not worse IMO. I see the medication is working to slow him down and concentrate, but this seems to allow him to think a little clearer and so he is much more devious, defiant and 'clever' when taking them. When he is off the medication he usually gets distracted by something else before being defiant.

Simon Attwood wrote:"Good or bad childhood"? I don't think we can really paint it so black or white, except for in the extremes. For the vast majority, we probably had an "OK" childhood, with ups and downs


I have to agree here. I'm not a bad parent, hey I'm probably as good as the general population this is why the topic is so interesting. I can't see that you can put any PD diagnosis down to just your childhood there seems to be so much more to it.

And then we come to neglect. I fear in my case that emotional neglect is going to become a problem. However I have noticed this and so I am trying to correct it. I function as a parent in the practical sense, but emotional is my downfall.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby jasmin » Thu May 19, 2011 9:27 am

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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby SpeckledUnicorn » Thu May 19, 2011 9:43 am

always happy to see Jasmin's cat in a sweater. >w<

Anyway, it makes sense to me that if AsPD is inherited then an abusive past would be more frequent with those who have it.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby Comingoutofmyshell » Thu May 19, 2011 9:54 am

JPKAS wrote:Anyway, it makes sense to me that if AsPD is inherited then an abusive past would be more frequent with those who have it.


Are you saying that an AsPD is more prone to being abusive toward their child and being so starts a chain of events? I wonder whether an AsPD parent would be more protective over their own more so than abusive, maybe?
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby SpeckledUnicorn » Thu May 19, 2011 10:04 am

That's possible too. Since both 5ive and Demon seem pretty protective over their children.

Of course there are other people with other disorders who abuse their kids and even those that are 'normal'.

I think you could be right Coming. I guess I just though no empathy= more likely to abuse. I didn't take that into consideration. I admit I totally went to an overgeneralization. All AsPDers are different.

That being said how does everyone feel about people who abuse their own children? I'm pretty sure Freddy Kreuger loved his own daughter (I honestly don't remember the 7th movie that well, but I don't think he abused her.)

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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby fiveintime » Thu May 19, 2011 11:29 am

Comingoutofmyshell wrote:Are you saying that an AsPD is more prone to being abusive toward their child and being so starts a chain of events? I wonder whether an AsPD parent would be more protective over their own more so than abusive, maybe?

There's a whole thread on this topic... for your perusing pleasure.

http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic60367.html
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby Comingoutofmyshell » Thu May 19, 2011 11:32 am

JPKAS wrote:That being said how does everyone feel about people who abuse their own children?


Ok depending on the abuse I have several different levels of response towards that.

IMO I think sexual abuse is the worse and is a disgusting act and a major violation of the child's free will. That being said psychological abuse can be just as harmful. To me physical abuse is wrong. I realise that I'm categorizing types of abuse with varying degrees of response. Does it matter what kind of abuse? Is abuse simply abuse and equally wrong?

JPKAS wrote:I apologize if I stepped on any toes : S.


Oh I don't think there is a need to apologise, it's about gaining insight.
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Re: AsPD and The Genetic Link

Postby fiveintime » Thu May 19, 2011 11:45 am

Comingoutofmyshell wrote:Does it matter what kind of abuse? Is abuse simply abuse and equally wrong?

Of course it matters. Invalidating a child's feelings and neglecting their emotional needs is clearly on a different level than raping them in the closet or beating them with a wrench. Abuse is a spectrum; though, it's hard to say which ones have the most impact on the child's adult life.
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