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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby Strange Collage Guy » Sun May 08, 2011 2:21 am

crystal_richardson wrote:To the op: Because your murderous rage, urges and impulses don't stem from anything in your environment, I don't think any of the suggestions given, although very good, will help you. In posters' attempts to relate to your 'problem', they've unwittingly attributed their murderous rage, urges and impulses to something or someone in their environment. Someone did something to them or something happened to them which set them off and they reacted accordingly, whether they over did it or not. In short, they had a reason.

Yours just seems to come out of no where. You could be sitting at your computer quietly typing away on psychforums and without any change in your environment, online or around you, you become enraged, hot, angry, agitated, ready to just do something, throw your laptop down, smash the screen, punch a hole in your wall, etc, etc...am I right? There is no target to your rage, nothing incited it - it's diffuse. It's just like a wave that came over you and you are victim to its inescapable influence until it passes. You're relieved but confused when it does - "Where the hell did that come from? Why? ###$..." - but you know it will return again, unexpectedly and without cause.

I don't know if you want a label or not, but this ^ is a hallmark of BPD, especially impulsive subtype. Have you looked into Borderline Personality Disorder at all?

P.S - Oh, also, my suggestion is don't try and 'release' it. Just go somewhere calm and let it pass. 'Release' in this context only applies when you have a reason, which you don't. It's actually a form of displacement; someone or something pisses you off and you go break a kid's skateboard because you can't direct your angry toward the real source or cause. This feeling is with you for a time whether you like it or not and it's not going away no matter what you do, so you can isolate yourself and let it pass without creating problems for yourself by doing something you'll regret, or you can do something productive like work out, which is what I do. If I'm away from home, then I'll excuse myself from whatever I'm doing with whomever and go to the bathroom or say I need to get something from my car, etc, etc. It's just important you evacuate the social situation if you're in one and the wave hits you, or you'll have some explaining to do.


Recently, after I took Demon's advice, is that I found the source of my "Rage and Urges". But if I deal with it will only result in his and his family's death. Then I would be "happy", I guess you can say. Many, many moons ago, this person did something that can never be fixed and caused the death of another.
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby crystal_richardson » Sun May 08, 2011 2:31 am

I'm glad you found the source. I'm sorry you can't do anything about it.
That said, do you feel any more in control now that you've found the source of your rage and urges?
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby user65218 » Sun May 08, 2011 2:46 am

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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby Strange Collage Guy » Sun May 08, 2011 2:46 am

crystal_richardson wrote:I'm glad you found the source. I'm sorry you can't do anything about it.
That said, do you feel any more in control now that you've found the source of your rage and urges?


No I haven't.
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby user65218 » Sun May 08, 2011 2:56 am

Didn't he clearly say that to fel better he had to kill someone?
So, it's gonna take some time, then yes he will
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby Demon » Sun May 08, 2011 3:05 am

What do you mean by, no you haven't? Does that mean you haven't found the source of your urges? You indicated in a previous post that you had. Or did you mean that knowing the source hasn't help you to control the urges at all?
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby Strange Collage Guy » Sun May 08, 2011 9:08 am

Demon wrote:Or did you mean that knowing the source hasn't help you to control the urges at all?


Yeah, honestly hasn't helped.
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby KenWalker » Sun May 08, 2011 10:15 am

crystal_richardson wrote:The psychopath's strategy is superior in light of who they are as emotionally crippled humans. Normal humans feel good after helping other people. Psychopaths don't. Psychopaths don't feel anything, whether they do 'good' for another human or 'bad'. Thus, the normal human is motivated by reward to do 'good' and avoid doing 'bad'.

The psychopath is not, and must attain his or her reward another way - make up for the deficit in emotional reward, if you will. This reward may take the form of power or acquiring material possessions. Without a conscience, the psychopath in some respects can excel in the attainment of these kinds of rewards relative to the normal who while having access to socio-emotional rewards, can not as effectively obtain the other kinds of rewards. Of course, the psychopath will never be happy because happiness is emotional.

Does that sound about right? (With regard to the "who wins argument: psychos or normals?")


Had to nitpick something.

That's both NPD and BPD way of thinking.

It's not about who has to suffer more or less to live as a person. It's how we can lessen the suffering SCG has to go through.

NPD's feel rewarded for recognizing the good they're responsible for. Normals do too, but mormals feel rewarded whether the good comes from them or from another person as long as good is established.

It doesn't matter who's right as long as it's right.
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby fiveintime » Sun May 08, 2011 10:38 am

KenWalker wrote:NPD's feel rewarded for recognizing the good they're responsible for. Normals do too, but normals feel rewarded whether the good comes from them or from another person as long as good is established.

Er... not quite. Take credit for somebody else's work, and most people would feel hurt. A normal ego might not need the amount of fuel an N needs, but they still require recognition and appreciation.
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Re: Ways of Controlling Murderous Rage, Urges and Impules

Postby KenWalker » Sun May 08, 2011 11:35 am

fiveintime wrote:
KenWalker wrote:NPD's feel rewarded for recognizing the good they're responsible for. Normals do too, but normals feel rewarded whether the good comes from them or from another person as long as good is established.

Er... not quite. Take credit for somebody else's work, and most people would feel hurt. A normal ego might not need the amount of fuel an N needs, but they still require recognition and appreciation.


Correct. I wasn't arguing against that.

What I do mention that separates normals is that they're capable of feeling reward when they see, for example, a life saved by someone else that they weren't responsible for. They feel the good of humanity.
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