PCL-R (for fun)

Myers wrote:

Characteristics wrote:
Am I losing my special sociopath club privileges?

Also, Myers, what was your score? I am guessing it was somewhere between 25-38? Furthermore, why didn't you lie? Lol.

Of course not. Like I said, "normal" people get between 0 and 2. 16.2 + ∞ + ∞ is pretty high up there.

The first time I took the PCL-R, I was 18. The questions aren't anything like what was posted above, obviously. And a lot of the test is comprised of patient history and collateral review. I'll post some of the questions and scoring methods from the real test booklet as soon as I get it.

Oh you sly guy you... You used alt codes, didn't you? Also, I figured most of the questions on those personality tests are pretty easily to see through. I guess they are more clever?

Characteristics wrote:
Oh you sly guy you... You used alt codes, didn't you? Also, I figured most of the questions on those personality tests are pretty easily to see through. I guess they are more clever?

I went onto wikipedia and copied the infinity symbol from some math equation...
No, they just look into your personal background and see if you were lying on the test. Lol. They ask like, "How many jobs have you had?" followed by a list of other questions about those jobs, or "Did you enjoy school?" followed by, "Did you ever skip class, and why?" More on this when I get the booklet...

Myers wrote:

Characteristics wrote:
Oh you sly guy you... You used alt codes, didn't you? Also, I figured most of the questions on those personality tests are pretty easily to see through. I guess they are more clever?

I went onto wikipedia and copied the infinity symbol from some math equation...
No, they just look into your personal background and see if you were lying on the test. Lol. They ask like, "How many jobs have you had?" followed by a list of other questions about those jobs, or "Did you enjoy school?" followed by, "Did you ever skip class, and why?"

I guess the KISS principle really is true. . .

Myers wrote:More on this when I get the booklet...

And I shall wait, Myers

OftheEnemy wrote:
Point is, to quantify a test claiming it can pick out a person with such a disorder and having such a wide gray area is more fun than fact. Many people fall through the cracks because they don't quite live up to the test or they are misdiagnosed because they seem to fit, though there reasons are not mental disorder.

That's a good point and has been debated by other professionals. It's also why the PCL-R is rarely used in clinical settings. It is usually used for legal purposes as an indicator of potential risks posed by psychopathic offenders, as psychopaths (or, rather, those who rate highly on the PCL-R) are more likely to reoffend and commit most violent crimes. Or it's used for research purposes. Which is why, if you believe you are a psychopath, you should never ever ever ever take the PCL-R, if you can avoid it. Because when the prosecutor tells the judge and jury all about your test scores and how you're a violent criminal who wouldn't loose a second of sleep over killing you, you're ten times more likely to be found guilty ... even if you had yourself on a security camera at your cousin's house ... about 200 miles away from the crime as the crime was happening, and the prosecution has no substantial evidence against you ...

Would lying about small things all the time qualify as "lying"? I assume when it talks about lying it refers to big things like faking pregnancy, fabricating credentials etc..

I got 4 points. 2 for Shallow Affect. 2 for Lack of Empathy.

Kantuskid wrote:Would lying about small things all the time qualify as "lying"? I assume when it talks about lying it refers to big things like faking pregnancy, fabricating credentials etc..

It depends. White lies, or lies to spare feelings obviously don't count. Lying to get some girl into bed would probably count, if done often enough.

BlueBits wrote:I got 4 points. 2 for Shallow Affect. 2 for Lack of Empathy.

Are you schizoid?

Edited upon request

Myers wrote:Because when the prosecutor tells the judge and jury all about your test scores and how you're a violent criminal who wouldn't loose a second of sleep over killing you, you're ten times more likely to be found guilty ... even if you had yourself on a security camera at your cousin's house ... about 200 miles away from the crime as the crime was happening, and the prosecution has no substantial evidence against you ...

Speaking from experience?