Greebo wrote:Squaredonutwheels wrote:Interesting how your mentors have two 3's where as the clan seems to be balanced with a little helping of everything except 3's. It gives the impression that the clan isn't achievement focused but having some kind of stable balance as it's core values.
Also you're the only 1 in the clan other than your family.
It’s probably an issue of group culture.
They’re quite a rough and ready bunch with a tendency to be scathing of anything that smells to much of pretence. Katie in particular has a tendency to be downright savage when presented with anything resembling ego fluffing. As a individuals we’re all quite disparate so there isn’t actually a lot to compete over. We’re also not a group which needs to agree with itself either, the ground state seems to be the debate.
The manner of communication tends both backward and harsher than some people are comfortable with. If I’m walking down the street with Doormatt I might turn to him and say in mock exasperation “You know, I f*cking hate you” to which he’d probably grin and say “I know” before going off at a tangent about how it’s his purpose to make me miserable like a short Irish version of poe’s raven. But the whole communication is actually an expression of affection. When I was babysitting his kids over the summer holidays I kept threatening to sell them to an east European sex trafficker, which in actuality was me saying that I’d take care of them and get things organised whenever he expressed anxiety about them (he’s a single parent, this happens a lot). I mean the group will express affection to each other directly in quieter moments, more so than most other groups I’ve encountered, but we’ve been light heartedly insulting and trolling each other since Doormatt, Strange, Lu, Katie and I were at school. It’s probably fairly normal
In some ways I suspect the bickering, trolling and general asshatery is what prevents the various relationships getting stale or disagreements becoming serious.
However a 3 who needs to be viewed in a certain way, a 1 with very fixed opinions on the subject of social interactions or people generally who need others to be ‘nice’ all the time will likely find them abrasive.
I enjoy these posts of yours.
I find it interesting that the enneagram quizzes, and eight and vinnie recon you're a 1 or 2. I disagree with them.
The wealth of detail, authenticity and self indulgence/expression make it seem like you're a more a 4.
That makes more sense because in the link you shared it says that a 4 becomes a 1 when disintegrating, 2 when integrating which means at the core you're actually a 4 that shows traits of a 1 and 2 because you're more or less constantly in flux.
I wonder if when stressed; inorder to contain the upsedaisey tipsey turnvey you becomes more rigid.
And when you're more integrating you're more helpful. But even your rigidity and helpfulness has a unique self expression at the core.
Which makes me wonder if someone is (dis)integrating, they could cycle through 1-4-2-8-5-7-1 if they live long enough and be all the types at some point in their life. That leaves the 6-3-9 which form the trinity centre of people whose identity exists solely in external ie reference with others and achievements holding it all together.
I'm curious what your relationship with Strange and Katie is like. Where does Gez fit into the clan?