Some questions about communication

I would have some questions about AsPD and psychopaths' attitude towards communication.
I did a short and a long version of this thread.

Short version:

Do you feel the need/wish/impulse to communicate and share thoughts, opinions, moods, feelings and/or needs with the others?

If you communicate: how do you balance this with your manipulative instincts/behaviour?

If you don't communicate (or very rarely), why not?

** End of the short version **

Long version:
If you don't look for communication, do you identify in some of the following reasons and if yes, which are the most relevant for you/?

-you are indifferent to that / don't consider communicate your real self as a part of your realisation
- you do not know yourself so well/lack of a contact with yourself
- you would feel the wish, but you consider that it's impossible, idealistic or stupid to follow it
- an open communication could expose you to manipulations
- people do not accept your real nature
- people can't understand your real nature
- you don't esteem people
- you never communicated and you aren't used to it
- you haven't intense feelings or thoughts that you wish to share
- other reasons...

Another reason could be that due to impulsiveness, you act following your moods/wishes/needs, and it drives to a sort of self expression and involuntary connection with people. Consequently, you don't perceive the wish to communicate, because that need has already been “satisfied” by your impulsive behaviour... does it make sense? If yes, could manipulation be a way of balancing your involuntary “communication” and an help to hide yourselves?
Or it's more the opposite: you are constantly controlling yourselves, calculating your behaviour and so on, and impulsiveness is an involuntary reaction to balance your hyper self-control?

HSS wrote:Short version:

Do you feel the need/wish/impulse to communicate and share thoughts, opinions, moods, feelings and/or needs with the others?

If you communicate: how do you balance this with your manipulative instincts/behaviour?

If you don't communicate (or very rarely), why not?

i dont feel that need, unless im doing it to change another person. for example i wont tell you im upset unless i think it will most likely change your actions to my benefit. i wont tell you im upset if i think youll use it against me, or if i think it will give you some sort of control over me

why dont i communicate my feelings n sht? because i dont want people to know how i operate. also, i find no solace in doing so

HSS wrote:Short version:

Do you feel the need/wish/impulse to communicate and share thoughts, opinions, moods, feelings and/or needs with the others?

Thoughts and opinions, yes. Moods, feelings and needs, no, unless I'm frustrated or pissed off about something, or it becomes a topic of discussion online.

There are things I talk about on here that I don't talk about in real life because I tend to keep a lot of shlt to myself. If I have a problem, I usually just deal with it by myself. I don't talk to anyone about it - unless the problem is with someone I need to sort out. Then I confront them over it. If I can't handle the problem myself for some reason, or am unsure how to, then I might post about it online, in the hope of getting some useful feedback.

If you communicate: how do you balance this with your manipulative instincts/behaviour?

I don't feel the need to manipulate people all the time, only when I see a beneficial reason to. So, it's easy to separate regular conversation from my manipulative behavior.

I personally find one-on-one conversation boring most of the time. I really like group chatting when there's an interesting topic to be had. I miss the drunk chats I used to have on discord when a group of us got together to play drinking games. That was fun. I haven't been drinking lately though, so it wouldn't be quite the same now.

i Never did the drunk chats with you although I did barge in on you and Cactus drunk off my ass that time and I couldn’t even formulate words to explain myself so I just hung up lmfao. Good times, do the game show voice you do and post it, it’s very good

Reaper wrote:Thoughts and opinions, yes.

why even these? who cares about what people think you think? youre just giving them information

HSS wrote:Do you feel the need/wish/impulse to communicate and share thoughts, opinions, moods, feelings and/or needs with the others?

Thoughts/opinions/moods/feelings are useful tools for spinning illusions with.

If you communicate: how do you balance this with your manipulative instincts/behaviour?

Giving somebody an impression as to my "thoughts, opinions, moods, feelings and/or needs" is calculated to attain a certain result....they do not represent true statements.

If you don't communicate (or very rarely), why not?

I suppose it's a lack of 'humanness'. I don't have the requisite depth. Sharing is not in my DNA.

saucygirl31 wrote:

Reaper wrote:Thoughts and opinions, yes.

why even these? who cares about what people think you think? youre just giving them information

Sometimes you have to give information to get information, whether the information being shared is true or not is another story. I like sharing my thoughts and opinions on things because it leads to further communication, and I happen to like discussing things that interest me. It also helps to gather information on others.

I also like arguing with people (not always, but quite often), so sometimes it's fun to stir the pot with thoughts and opinions that cause others to react. Most people are very easy to manipulate.

It there is a reason for me to communicate then I will but I have to know that the outcome will benefit me otherwise I see it as pointless.

Thanks to everyone for your explanations.

Short version:

Do you feel the need/wish/impulse to communicate and share thoughts, opinions, moods, feelings and/or needs with the others?

If you communicate: how do you balance this with your manipulative instincts/behaviour?

If you don't communicate (or very rarely), why not?

1) I do feel an impulse to share my opinions with others, I usually play devil's advocate, but don't tell them, and see how riled up they get from my "offensive" viewpoints.

2) People trust honesty way too much. I'll tell people stuff about myself sure, but I'll always keep them guessing, never giving them the information they need, but always the ones they want. It hooks them like an addict it's fix. Rather fun to watch.

3) When I'm feeling particularly isolated (I fluctuate often). It's mainly a manipulative thing, in order to get people to miss me, it's kind of a necessity. It's a win-win, as my phone's being blown up, while I also don't get to deal with annoying people. I enjoy those times.